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From: Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: abonilla@linuxwireless.org, pavel@ucw.cz, jgarzik@pobox.com,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ipw2100-admin@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: ipw2100: firmware problem
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:25:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200506090925.07495.vda@ilport.com.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050608.231657.59660080.davem@davemloft.net>

On Thursday 09 June 2005 09:16, David S. Miller wrote:
> From: Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>
> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:09:55 +0300
> 
> > On Wednesday 08 June 2005 18:05, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
> > > Currently, when we install the driver, it associates to any open network on
> > > boot. This is good, cause we don't want to be typing the commands all the
> > > time just to associate. It works this way now and is pretty nice.
> > 
> > What is so nice about this? That Linux novice user with his new lappie
> > will join a neighbor's network every time he powers up the lappie,
> > even without knowing that?
> 
> I love this behavior, because it means that I don't have to do
> anything special to get my setup at home working.
> 
> Me caveman
> Me plug in wireless router
> Me watch pretty lights
> Me turn on computer
> Me up interface

You need to up interface? And surely you need ip addr? That's a knob also! :)

> Computer work
> Me no care other cavemen use wireless link
> 
> Configuration knobs are _madness_.  Things should work with minimal
> intervention and configuration.

Sure. I consider "iwconfig essid MyCave mode managed" a minimal intervention,
just like I consider "ip a a dev eth0 123.123.123.2/24 brd +; ip l set dev eth0 up"
a miniman interventian if I need IP configured.
--
vda

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-09  6:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-08 14:23 ipw2100: firmware problem Pavel Machek
2005-06-08 14:44 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-08 14:56   ` Jirka Bohac
2005-06-08 16:29     ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-21  7:42     ` Simon Kelley
2005-06-21  8:29       ` Feyd
2005-06-21  8:46         ` Simon Kelley
2005-06-08 15:05   ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-08 15:23     ` Jiri Benc
2005-06-09  6:09     ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09  6:16       ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09  6:25         ` Denis Vlasenko [this message]
2005-06-09  6:28           ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09  6:37             ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09  8:36               ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-06-09 10:42         ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-09 19:53           ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 21:01             ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-09 21:11               ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-09 21:15               ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-09 22:11               ` David S. Miller
2005-06-10  2:13               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-10  2:46                 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10  9:00                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-10 13:00                     ` John Stoffel
2005-06-10 13:33                     ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-09 14:31       ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10  6:56         ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-10 13:23           ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10 20:26             ` Lee Revell
2005-06-10 21:00               ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10 21:07                 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-13 16:42               ` Jan Rychter
2005-06-11 12:44             ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-08 17:10   ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-08 19:43     ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08 19:49       ` Dave Jones
2005-06-08 19:54         ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09  6:03       ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09  6:10         ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09  6:17           ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09  6:20             ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09  6:30               ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09  6:35                 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-10  3:51                 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-09  6:06       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-09  6:13         ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09  6:29           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-08 16:58 ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-08 21:27   ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-08 21:46     ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-08 22:34       ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-09  3:33         ` Zhu Yi
2005-06-09 10:56           ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-09 13:56   ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-09 21:12     ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-09 23:13       ` Jeff Garzik

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