From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: vda@ilport.com.ua, abonilla@linuxwireless.org, jgarzik@pobox.com,
netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
ipw2100-admin@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: ipw2100: firmware problem
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:42:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050609104205.GD3169@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050608.231657.59660080.davem@davemloft.net>
Hi!
> > > Currently, when we install the driver, it associates to any open network on
> > > boot. This is good, cause we don't want to be typing the commands all the
> > > time just to associate. It works this way now and is pretty nice.
> >
> > What is so nice about this? That Linux novice user with his new lappie
> > will join a neighbor's network every time he powers up the lappie,
> > even without knowing that?
>
> I love this behavior, because it means that I don't have to do
> anything special to get my setup at home working.
>
> Me caveman
> Me plug in wireless router
> Me watch pretty lights
> Me turn on computer
> Me up interface
> Computer work
> Me no care other cavemen use wireless link
>
> Configuration knobs are _madness_. Things should work with minimal
> intervention and configuration.
I'm not saying it should not work automagically. But it is wrong to
start transmitting on wireless as soon as kernel boots. It should stay
quiet in the radio until it is either told to talk or until interface
is upped.
That way
* above still works, only radio chat begins one step later
* if you are in environment where you absolutely do not want it to
talk on the radio (airplane, BlackHatCon with APs trying to hack you
all around), you can make it quiet without needing kernel/module
parameters.
Pavel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-09 10:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-08 14:23 ipw2100: firmware problem Pavel Machek
2005-06-08 14:44 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-08 14:56 ` Jirka Bohac
2005-06-08 16:29 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-21 7:42 ` Simon Kelley
2005-06-21 8:29 ` Feyd
2005-06-21 8:46 ` Simon Kelley
2005-06-08 15:05 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-08 15:23 ` Jiri Benc
2005-06-09 6:09 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 6:16 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:25 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 6:28 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:37 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 8:36 ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-06-09 10:42 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-06-09 19:53 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 21:01 ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-09 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-09 21:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-09 22:11 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-10 2:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-10 2:46 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10 9:00 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-10 13:00 ` John Stoffel
2005-06-10 13:33 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-09 14:31 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10 6:56 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-10 13:23 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10 20:26 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-10 21:00 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10 21:07 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-13 16:42 ` Jan Rychter
2005-06-11 12:44 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-08 17:10 ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-08 19:43 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08 19:49 ` Dave Jones
2005-06-08 19:54 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:03 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 6:10 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:17 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 6:20 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:30 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 6:35 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-10 3:51 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-09 6:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-09 6:13 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-08 16:58 ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-08 21:27 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-08 21:46 ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-08 22:34 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-09 3:33 ` Zhu Yi
2005-06-09 10:56 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-09 13:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-09 21:12 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-09 23:13 ` Jeff Garzik
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