From: Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>
To: <abonilla@linuxwireless.org>, "'Pavel Machek'" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"'Jeff Garzik'" <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
"'Netdev list'" <netdev@oss.sgi.com>,
"'kernel list'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"'James P. Ketrenos'" <ipw2100-admin@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: ipw2100: firmware problem
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:56:16 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200506100956.16031.vda@ilport.com.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <002a01c56cff$fb64ba70$600cc60a@amer.sykes.com>
On Thursday 09 June 2005 17:31, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
>
> > What is so nice about this? That Linux novice user with his new lappie
> > will join a neighbor's network every time he powers up the lappie,
> > even without knowing that?
> >
> > That will be analogous to me plugging ethernet cable into the
> > switch and
> > wanting it to work, without any IP addr config, even without
> > DHCP client.
> > Just power up the box (or modprobe an eth module) and it
> > works! Cool, eh?
> >
>
> You want things one way, I like them in another way. Whoever makes this
> decision should just know that we would like to have an option to make it
> load with or without the ASSOC on.
But you already _have_ the option to associate. Just issue
appropriate iwconfig command (or embed one in startup script).
> James already said to use the options ipw2100 disable=1 if you don't want it
> to associate everytime on boot.
Do we have to add such option to each and every wireless driver now?
That would be wrong since iwconfig already exists.
> At the end, who decides this?
User. As I said, with no automatic assoc at module load user still
may easily attain that with iwconfig.
Adding kernel level wireless autoconfiguration duplicates the effort.
Since I am not going to give up a requirement to be able to stay radio
silent at boot (me too wants freedom, not only you), you need to add
disable=1 module parameter to each driver, which adds to the mess.
ALSA does the Right Thing. Sound is completely muted out at module load.
It's a user freedom to set desired volume level after that.
--
vda
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-10 6:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-08 14:23 ipw2100: firmware problem Pavel Machek
2005-06-08 14:44 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-08 14:56 ` Jirka Bohac
2005-06-08 16:29 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-21 7:42 ` Simon Kelley
2005-06-21 8:29 ` Feyd
2005-06-21 8:46 ` Simon Kelley
2005-06-08 15:05 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-08 15:23 ` Jiri Benc
2005-06-09 6:09 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 6:16 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:25 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 6:28 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:37 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 8:36 ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-06-09 10:42 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-09 19:53 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 21:01 ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-09 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-09 21:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-09 22:11 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-10 2:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-10 2:46 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10 9:00 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-10 13:00 ` John Stoffel
2005-06-10 13:33 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-09 14:31 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10 6:56 ` Denis Vlasenko [this message]
2005-06-10 13:23 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10 20:26 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-10 21:00 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-06-10 21:07 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-13 16:42 ` Jan Rychter
2005-06-11 12:44 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-08 17:10 ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-08 19:43 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08 19:49 ` Dave Jones
2005-06-08 19:54 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:03 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 6:10 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:17 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 6:20 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:30 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-09 6:35 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-10 3:51 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-09 6:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-09 6:13 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 6:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-08 16:58 ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-08 21:27 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-08 21:46 ` James Ketrenos
2005-06-08 22:34 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-09 3:33 ` Zhu Yi
2005-06-09 10:56 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-09 13:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-09 21:12 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-09 23:13 ` Jeff Garzik
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