* Re: argh... ;/
2005-08-05 17:20 ` John W. Linville
@ 2005-08-05 17:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-05 17:49 ` Dave Jones
2005-08-12 5:36 ` Chris Wedgwood
2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jeff Garzik @ 2005-08-05 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John W. Linville; +Cc: kernel-mentors, netdev, Daniel Phillips
John W. Linville wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 02:41:30AM +1000, Daniel Phillips wrote:
>
>>On Friday 05 August 2005 13:04, Mateusz Berezecki wrote:
>>
>>>I accidentaly posted the patches as MIME attachments... its 5:03 am here
>
>
>>Does anybody still care if patches are posted as attachments, particularly for
>>review as opposed to submission?
>
>
> Yes. Opening attachments makes them harder to review.
Strongly agreed.
Jeff
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* Re: argh... ;/
2005-08-05 17:20 ` John W. Linville
2005-08-05 17:45 ` Jeff Garzik
@ 2005-08-05 17:49 ` Dave Jones
2005-08-05 18:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-12 5:36 ` Chris Wedgwood
2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Dave Jones @ 2005-08-05 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Phillips, Mateusz Berezecki, kernel-mentors, netdev
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 01:20:59PM -0400, John W. Linville wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 02:41:30AM +1000, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > On Friday 05 August 2005 13:04, Mateusz Berezecki wrote:
> > > I accidentaly posted the patches as MIME attachments... its 5:03 am here
>
> > Does anybody still care if patches are posted as attachments, particularly for
> > review as opposed to submission?
>
> Yes. Opening attachments makes them harder to review.
Indeed. Replying to such mails ends up looking like..
>
---end quoted text---
Which means you need to futz around saving it, reading it back in, deleting it etc..
Saving reviewers keystrokes == good thing.
Dave
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* Re: argh... ;/
2005-08-05 17:49 ` Dave Jones
@ 2005-08-05 18:56 ` Daniel Phillips
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From: Daniel Phillips @ 2005-08-05 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Jones; +Cc: kernel-mentors, netdev
On Saturday 06 August 2005 03:49, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 01:20:59PM -0400, John W. Linville wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 02:41:30AM +1000, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > > On Friday 05 August 2005 13:04, Mateusz Berezecki wrote:
> > > > I accidentaly posted the patches as MIME attachments... its 5:03 am
> > > > here
> > >
> > > Does anybody still care if patches are posted as attachments,
> > > particularly for review as opposed to submission?
> >
> > Yes. Opening attachments makes them harder to review.
>
> Indeed. Replying to such mails ends up looking like..
>
Hi, sorry, about the misfired "test" mail... the _real_ issue for me was that
Kmail was turning tabs into spaces for the longest time, so forcing me either
to switch mailers (and you know how appealing that is) or send patches as
attachments. It's finally fixed, so I'll happily join in with dumping on the
poor misguided folks who insist on posting their patches as attachments.
Regards,
Daniel "the flexible" Phillips
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* Re: argh... ;/
2005-08-05 17:20 ` John W. Linville
2005-08-05 17:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-05 17:49 ` Dave Jones
@ 2005-08-12 5:36 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-08-12 11:35 ` Ralf Baechle
2005-08-12 11:44 ` John W. Linville
2 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Chris Wedgwood @ 2005-08-12 5:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Phillips, Mateusz Berezecki, kernel-mentors, netdev
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 01:20:59PM -0400, John W. Linville wrote:
> Yes. Opening attachments makes them harder to review.
Lots of people can't inline patches because they are inflicted with
crappy MUAs --- I would much prefer patches as attachments in those
cases versus mangled patches.
Also, I would arguue any sane MUA would make dealing with
reading/openning patches for sensible mime types trivial.
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* Re: argh... ;/
2005-08-12 5:36 ` Chris Wedgwood
@ 2005-08-12 11:35 ` Ralf Baechle
2005-08-12 11:44 ` John W. Linville
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Ralf Baechle @ 2005-08-12 11:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chris Wedgwood; +Cc: kernel-mentors, netdev, Daniel Phillips
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 10:36:34PM -0700, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 01:20:59PM -0400, John W. Linville wrote:
>
> > Yes. Opening attachments makes them harder to review.
>
> Lots of people can't inline patches because they are inflicted with
> crappy MUAs --- I would much prefer patches as attachments in those
> cases versus mangled patches.
>
> Also, I would arguue any sane MUA would make dealing with
> reading/openning patches for sensible mime types trivial.
That may break quilt import and probably other tools; having to teach quilt
about MIME would be a horribly pointless exercise.
Ralf
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* Re: argh... ;/
2005-08-12 5:36 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-08-12 11:35 ` Ralf Baechle
@ 2005-08-12 11:44 ` John W. Linville
2005-08-12 14:22 ` Chris Wedgwood
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: John W. Linville @ 2005-08-12 11:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chris Wedgwood; +Cc: kernel-mentors, netdev, Daniel Phillips
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 10:36:34PM -0700, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 01:20:59PM -0400, John W. Linville wrote:
>
> > Yes. Opening attachments makes them harder to review.
>
> Lots of people can't inline patches because they are inflicted with
> crappy MUAs --- I would much prefer patches as attachments in those
> cases versus mangled patches.
Don't use crappy MUAs?
> Also, I would arguue any sane MUA would make dealing with
> reading/openning patches for sensible mime types trivial.
Any sane MUA wouldn't mangle the patches...
John
--
John W. Linville
linville@tuxdriver.com
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* Re: argh... ;/
2005-08-12 11:44 ` John W. Linville
@ 2005-08-12 14:22 ` Chris Wedgwood
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Chris Wedgwood @ 2005-08-12 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Phillips, Mateusz Berezecki, kernel-mentors, netdev
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 07:44:28AM -0400, John W. Linville wrote:
> Don't use crappy MUAs?
Well, plenty of people do. It's almost the norm so crappy probably
isn't very fair.
It does seem that most if the GUI-base MUAs though by default have
problematic settings (Mozilla, Thunderbird, Evolution, Outlook all
have problems at tims).
People also like to cut & paste patches from xterms or simlar into
MUAs which usually doesn't work very well either.
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