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From: Jiri Benc <jbenc@suse.cz>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>,
	mbuesch@freenet.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, NetDev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Broadcom 43xx first results
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 20:18:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051205201846.5fa5eb5a@griffin.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4394902C.8060100@pobox.com>

On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:08:28 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Patently false.
> 
> ieee80211 is used by Intel.  Some bits used by HostAP, which also 
> duplicates a lot of ieee80211 code.  And bcm43xx.  And another couple 
> drivers found in -mm or out-of-tree.

Hostap uses only encryption code, which was copied from - guess who -
hostap. Everything other must be done by the hostap driver itself.

bcm43xx can use - like every other driver - only constants and defines
from ieee80211.h. This is the reason why they are trying to implement
"softmac" on top of it. But that work was already done by Jouni.

> > of a wifi driver tries to implement his own "softmac" now. I cannot see
> > how this can move as forward and I think we can agree this is not the
> > way to go.
> 
> You're agreeing with only yourself, then?

I meant that every driver tries to implements its own "softmac". This is
not the way to go, right?

> > Rewriting (or, if you like, enhancing) the current 802.11 code seems to
> > be wasting of time now, when nearly complete Linux stack was opensourced
> > by Devicescape. We can try to merge it, but I'm not convinced it is
> > possible, the Devicescape's stack is far more advanced.
> 
> This invalid logic is why we have a ton of wireless stacks, all 
> duplicating each other.

Heh? We have one nearly finished stack (and no, it's not the one in
kernel). Why should we try to implement a new stack instead of fixing
some issues of the nearly finished one?


-- 
Jiri Benc
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-05 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1Eiyw4-0003Ab-FW@www1.emo.freenet-rz.de>
2005-12-05 18:00 ` Broadcom 43xx first results Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 18:14   ` Michael Renzmann
2005-12-05 18:46     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 18:49       ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 18:54         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 19:11           ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-06  7:17       ` Michael Renzmann
     [not found]   ` <20051205190038.04b7b7c1-IhiK2ZEFs2oCVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2005-12-05 18:38     ` Joseph Jezak
2005-12-05 18:55       ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:08         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 19:18           ` Jiri Benc [this message]
2005-12-05 19:53           ` Dave Jones
2005-12-05 20:09             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-06 15:10             ` Harald Welte
2005-12-06 19:05               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-07  7:16                 ` Harald Welte
2005-12-06 23:19               ` David S. Miller
2005-12-06 23:45                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-07 13:34                 ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-08 11:32                   ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-08 12:07           ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-08 12:12             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-08 13:03               ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:10         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 19:31           ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:41             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 20:11               ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-06 15:09                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 16:43                   ` Ben Greear
2005-12-06 23:25                     ` David S. Miller
2005-12-06 19:24                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-06 15:04             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-08  0:00             ` Michael Wu
2005-12-08  1:05               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 20:23     ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05 20:42       ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-06  9:26         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-06 10:23           ` Luc Saillard
2005-12-06 22:47 Jean Tourrilhes
2005-12-07  7:11 ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-07 19:16   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2005-12-07 19:47     ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-07 19:05 ` Jean Tourrilhes

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