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From: Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Jiri Benc <jbenc@suse.cz>, Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>,
	mbuesch@freenet.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, NetDev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Broadcom 43xx first results
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:40:47 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051206151046.GF4038@rama.exocore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051205195329.GB19964@redhat.com>

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On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 02:53:29PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
>  > ieee80211 is used by Intel.  Some bits used by HostAP, which also 
>  > duplicates a lot of ieee80211 code.  And bcm43xx.  And another couple 
>  > drivers found in -mm or out-of-tree.
> 
> Orinoco also uses it now no ?

Dave, the Orinoco is a wireless card that has a hardware MAC, plust
firmware. 

I do agree with Jiri that there basically is no support for softmac
devices in the ieee80211 code.

I'm also in favor of merging the devicescape code, but I don't see it
happening without somebody taking care to provide all the required
levels of interfaces (I see at least three levels of API's that a wireless
driver would need, depending on how much stuff is done in
hardware/firmware and how much in software.

I also think that there is a lack of knowledge on the architecture of
802.11 low-level protocols and drivers among many people (including
myself) in the network community.  Only this way I can explain why there
are always people who claim that the kernel already has a 802.11
'stack'.

-- 
- Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org>          	        http://gnumonks.org/
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-06 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1Eiyw4-0003Ab-FW@www1.emo.freenet-rz.de>
2005-12-05 18:00 ` Broadcom 43xx first results Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 18:14   ` Michael Renzmann
2005-12-05 18:46     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 18:49       ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 18:54         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 19:11           ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-06  7:17       ` Michael Renzmann
     [not found]   ` <20051205190038.04b7b7c1-IhiK2ZEFs2oCVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2005-12-05 18:38     ` Joseph Jezak
2005-12-05 18:55       ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:08         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 19:18           ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:53           ` Dave Jones
2005-12-05 20:09             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-06 15:10             ` Harald Welte [this message]
2005-12-06 19:05               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-07  7:16                 ` Harald Welte
2005-12-06 23:19               ` David S. Miller
2005-12-06 23:45                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-07 13:34                 ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-08 11:32                   ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-08 12:07           ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-08 12:12             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-08 13:03               ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:10         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 19:31           ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:41             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 20:11               ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-06 15:09                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 16:43                   ` Ben Greear
2005-12-06 23:25                     ` David S. Miller
2005-12-06 19:24                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-06 15:04             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-08  0:00             ` Michael Wu
2005-12-08  1:05               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 20:23     ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05 20:42       ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-06  9:26         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-06 10:23           ` Luc Saillard
2005-12-06 22:47 Jean Tourrilhes
2005-12-07  7:11 ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-07 19:16   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2005-12-07 19:47     ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-07 19:05 ` Jean Tourrilhes

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