From: Stuffed Crust <pizza@shaftnet.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Jiri Benc <jbenc@suse.cz>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Subject: Re: wireless: recap of current issues (configuration)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:33:25 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060116173325.GC8596@shaftnet.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1137423355.2520.112.camel@localhost>
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On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 03:55:55PM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> I really don't see why a plain STA mode card should be required to carry
> around all the code required for AP operation -- handling associations
> of clients, powersave management wrt. buffering, ... Sure, fragmentation
From the perspective of the hardware driver, there is little AP or
STA-specific code, especially when IBSS is thrown in. Thick MACs
excepted, there's little more than "frame tx/rx, and hardware control
twiddling".
The AP/STA smarts happen in the 802.11 stack. And, speaking from
experience, it is very hard to separate them cleanly, at least not
without incurring even more overall complexity and bloat.
It's far simpler to build them intertwined, then add a bunch of #ifdefs
if you want to disable AP or STA mode individually to save space.
- Solomon
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Solomon Peachy ICQ: 1318344
Melbourne, FL
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-16 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20060113195723.GB16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 21:26 ` wireless: recap of current issues (intro) John W. Linville
[not found] ` <20060113213011.GE16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:19 ` wireless: recap of current issues (configuration) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:32 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 1:17 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-14 9:28 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 13:47 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-01-14 22:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-01-15 15:20 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-15 19:05 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 17:09 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 18:51 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 19:06 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-16 20:16 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 21:06 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 22:24 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-16 23:02 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-17 18:41 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-17 18:54 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-15 19:53 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 17:28 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 17:54 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 19:40 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 20:14 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 20:58 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 18:39 ` Dan Williams
2006-01-16 19:07 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-16 19:50 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-16 20:10 ` Samuel Ortiz
2006-01-15 12:40 ` Stefan Rompf
2006-01-15 15:51 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-15 17:53 ` Stefan Rompf
2006-01-15 20:08 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-15 20:11 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-17 22:20 ` Stefan Rompf
2006-01-15 19:39 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 0:06 ` Mike Kershaw
2006-01-16 14:23 ` Jiri Benc
2006-01-16 14:55 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-16 17:33 ` Stuffed Crust [this message]
2006-01-16 18:00 ` Sam Leffler
2006-01-16 20:16 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-14 0:05 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-01-14 23:41 ` Dan Williams
2006-01-15 16:18 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-15 9:35 ` feyd
[not found] ` <20060113213126.GF16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:20 ` wireless: recap of current issues (compatibility) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:33 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 13:44 ` Krzysztof Halasa
[not found] ` <20060113213237.GH16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:24 ` wireless: recap of current issues (other issues) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:35 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-13 23:02 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 22:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-01-15 0:54 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-15 1:51 ` David S. Miller
2006-01-15 11:23 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2006-01-15 15:39 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-17 23:36 ` wireless: recap of current issues (other issues / fake ethernet) Stefan Rompf
2006-01-18 16:32 ` Stuffed Crust
[not found] ` <20060113213311.GI16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:25 ` wireless: recap of current issues (actions) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:36 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-14 22:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-01-15 0:56 ` John W. Linville
2006-01-16 14:44 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <20060113213200.GG16166@tuxdriver.com>
2006-01-13 22:22 ` wireless: recap of current issues (stack) John W. Linville
2006-01-13 22:34 ` Johannes Berg
2006-01-13 23:03 ` Chase Venters
2006-01-14 10:46 ` Simon Kelley
2006-01-14 23:29 ` Dan Williams
2006-01-14 13:51 ` Michael Buesch
2006-01-17 17:38 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-01-14 14:13 ` Ulrich Kunitz
2006-01-15 4:42 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-01-15 10:04 ` Ulrich Kunitz
[not found] ` <43C80F9A.8020203@candelatech.com>
2006-01-13 22:49 ` wireless: recap of current issues Ben Greear
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