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From: Jean Tourrilhes <jt@hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re: wireless: recap of current issues (stack)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:38:18 -0800
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On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote:
> On Saturday 14 January 2006 00:03, you wrote:
> > As an aside to this whole thing, I know we're talking about *kernel* wireless 
> > but it's worthless to most people without good userland support as well. 
> > Anyone have any thoughts and feelings on what things look like on the 
> > desktop? I think if we work closely with some desktop people, we can shepard 
> > in some wonderful new desktop support on top of the new netlink API.
> 
> I am in the KDE development and have (almost) full access to the KDE svn
> repository. Altought I did not do much coding on KDE apps recently,
> I will be able to help in WiFi support for KDE.
> The first thing I thought of, was a tray icon with basic information
> about the available interfaces and basic configuration
> capabilities.

	There is already at least 2 KDE applications for WiFi stuff,
and both are fully fledged (i.e. not just a signal meter) :
		http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdenetwork/wifi/
		http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdenonbeta/kifi/
	Note that I've used neither, so I don't know how good they are
and what features are missing. If you decide to write another apps,
please send me the link so I can add it on my web page.

> Greetings Michael.

	Have fun...

	Jean