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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>
Cc: dada1@cosmosbay.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, shai@scalex86.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, pravins@calsoftinc.com, bcrl@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/4] net: Percpufy frequently used variables -- proto.sockets_allocated
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:16:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060202191600.3bf3a64a.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060203030547.GB3612@localhost.localdomain>

Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 03:01:06PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > If the benchmarks say that we need to.  If we cannot observe any problems
> > > > in testing of existing code and if we can't demonstrate any benefit from
> > > > the patched code then one option is to go off and do something else ;)
> > > 
> > > We first tried plain per-CPU counters for memory_allocated, found that reads
> > > on memory_allocated was causing cacheline transfers, and then
> > > switched over to batching.  So batching reads is useful.  To avoid
> > > inaccuracy, we can maybe change percpu_counter_init to:
> > > 
> > > void percpu_counter_init(struct percpu_counter *fbc, int maxdev)
> > > 
> > > the percpu batching limit would then be maxdev/num_possible_cpus.  One would
> > > use batching counters only when both reads and writes are frequent.  With
> > > the above scheme, we would go fetch cachelines from other cpus for read
> > > often only on large cpu counts, which is not any worse than the global
> > > counter alternative, but it would still be beneficial on smaller machines,
> > > without sacrificing a pre-set deviation.  
> > > 
> > > Comments?
> > 
> > Sounds sane.
> >
> 
> Here's an implementation which delegates tuning of batching to the user.  We
> don't really need local_t at all as percpu_counter_mod is not safe against
> interrupts and softirqs  as it is.  If we have a counter which could be
> modified in process context and irq/bh context, we just have to use a
> wrapper like percpu_counter_mod_bh which will just disable and enable bottom
> halves.  Reads on the counters are safe as they are atomic_reads, and the
> cpu local variables are always accessed by that cpu only.
> 
> (PS: the maxerr for ext2/ext3 is just guesstimate)

Well that's the problem.  We need to choose production-quality values for
use in there.

> Comments?

Using num_possible_cpus() in that header file is just asking for build
errors.  Probably best to uninline the function rather than adding the
needed include of cpumask.h.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-03  3:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-26 18:56 [patch 0/4] net: Percpufy frequently used variables on struct proto Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-26 18:59 ` [patch 1/4] net: Percpufy frequently used variables -- add percpu_counter_mod_bh Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-26 19:02 ` [patch 2/4] net: Percpufy frequently used variables -- struct proto.memory_allocated Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-27  9:01   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-26 19:03 ` [patch 3/4] net: Percpufy frequently used variables -- proto.sockets_allocated Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-27  8:53   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-27 19:52     ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-27 20:16       ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-27 22:30         ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-27 22:50           ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-27 23:21             ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-28  0:40               ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-27 22:44         ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-27 22:58           ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-27 23:16             ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-28  0:28               ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-28  0:35                 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-28  4:52                   ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-28  7:19                     ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-28  0:43                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-28  1:10                   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-28  1:18                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-29  0:44                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-01-29  0:55                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-29  1:19                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-01-29  1:29                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-29  1:45                       ` Kyle McMartin
2006-01-29  5:38                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-29  6:54                   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-29 19:52                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-01-27 23:01           ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-27 23:08             ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-28  0:01               ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-28  0:26                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-03  3:05             ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-02-03  3:16               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-02-03 19:37                 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-02-03 20:13                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-26 19:05 ` [patch 4/4] net: Percpufy frequently used variables -- proto.inuse Ravikiran G Thirumalai

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