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From: Stefan Rompf <stefan@loplof.de>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: gene.heskett@verizononline.net,
	James Ketrenos <jketreno@linux.intel.com>,
	NetDev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Announce] Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:29:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200602251329.03933.stefan@loplof.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060225105340.GA23643@infradead.org>

Am Samstag 25 Februar 2006 11:53 schrieb Christoph Hellwig:

>From a short glance over the driver code, the protocol between the _open 
source_ driver and the binary user space daemon seems to be quite defined and 
unobfuscated. Obviously, someone owning the device has to verify that the 
daemon doesn't tamper the hardware beyond the driver's back.

> We have support for other software radios. 

There is a difference. As kernel developers, we can put the responsibility to 
verify that a device can be operated legally on the user, as you said. A 
manufacturer, especially a huge one as Intel, is obligated to take this 
burden from their customers - obligated may be by law, may be by company 
policy.

> If intel doesn't do the right 
> thing support for their hardware will have to wait until someone has
> reverse-engineered their daemon [1].

If someone else reverse engineers and replaces the daemon, it may not be 
Intel's problem anymore - but that's all not the point.

Actually, Intel invested a lot of time to avoid shipping a binary only driver 
or a HAL like madwifi does. So however this settles, they deserve at least to 
be adressed in a less insulting tone than you do in your mails.

Thanks,

Stefan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-25 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-24 22:29 [Announce] Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection James Ketrenos
2006-02-24 23:34 ` Dax Kelson
2006-02-24 23:48 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-02-25 13:26   ` Michael Buesch
2006-02-25  8:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-25 10:49   ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-25 10:53     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-25 11:19       ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-25 13:19         ` Michael Buesch
2006-02-26  1:09         ` Stephen Evanchik
2006-02-25 12:29       ` Stefan Rompf [this message]
2006-02-25 14:19     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 22:07       ` Matthieu CASTET
2006-02-25 22:19         ` John Stoffel
2006-02-25 22:28           ` matthieu castet
2006-02-25 22:47             ` Larry Finger
2006-02-26 20:20           ` Alejandro Bonilla
2006-02-26  0:58   ` Alan Cox
2006-02-27 17:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-27 17:34       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-03-03 20:04       ` Kasper Sandberg
2006-03-03 20:31         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-26 17:54 ` Pavel Machek

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