From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: "Jouni Malinen" <jkm@devicescape.com>
Cc: Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>,
johannes@sipsolutions.net, dcbw@redhat.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linville@tuxdriver.com,
softmac-dev@sipsolutions.net
Subject: Re: [patch 1/3] softmac: return -EAGAIN from getscan while scanning
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:03:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060413160336.7a430c04@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060413224522.GK15499@instant802.com>
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:45:22 -0700
"Jouni Malinen" <jkm@devicescape.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 03:28:53PM -0700, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:00:51 -0700, "Jouni Malinen" <jkm@devicescape.com> wrote:
> >
> > > That could be blocking an ioctl call for couple of seconds
> > > and would be quite horrible for single threaded programs.
> >
> > I would say that waiting for couple of seconds in the kernel would
> > be quite wonderful for single threaded programs, when you consider
> > the alternative. I can guess now what your concern is, even though
> > you failed to articulate it: a single-threaded GUI application,
> > which cannot respond to events when blocked in getting scan results.
> > If that's the case, we should be looking at having both blocking
> > and non-blocking calls to fetch scan results.
>
> No, my main concern was single-threaded design in wpa_suppliant.. If the
> ioctl call is blocking, I would need to create a new (well, the first
> additional) thread just for this use. Without that, the blocking call
> would also block all control interface commands (interaction with
> external programs) and controlling of other interfaces (if more than one
> is used).
>
> > > [...] but what if some other program were
> > > to request a new scan between the completion event and the attempt to
> > > read the previous scan results..
> >
> > I do not see how this is relevant.
>
> That would make the application wait even if it properly waited for the
> scan complete event before reading the scan result. If the get-results
> call is blocking, the single-threaded application simply don't have any
> easy way of getting the results while being able to do something else
> while waiting for the scan to complete. Furthermore, blocking ioctl
> handlers is not really something I would like to see in the kernel..
> Aren't there some locks/semaphores/etc. kept for some cases?
>
Sounds like you want a message interface like netlink, not ioctl's.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-04-13 23:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20060411085805.949313000@sipsolutions.net>
2006-04-13 0:42 ` [patch 4] softmac: fix event sending Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <20060411085841.252064000@sipsolutions.net>
2006-04-13 9:00 ` [patch 1/3] softmac: return -EAGAIN from getscan while scanning Pete Zaitcev
2006-04-13 9:06 ` Johannes Berg
2006-04-13 9:34 ` Johannes Berg
2006-04-13 12:14 ` Dan Williams
2006-04-13 16:13 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-04-15 19:24 ` Johannes Berg
2006-04-15 21:27 ` Dan Williams
2006-04-13 12:12 ` Dan Williams
2006-04-13 12:19 ` Johannes Berg
2006-04-13 16:00 ` Jouni Malinen
2006-04-13 22:28 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-04-13 22:45 ` Jouni Malinen
2006-04-13 23:03 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-04-13 23:35 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-04-13 22:21 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-04-13 9:41 ` [patch 5] softmac: report when scanning has finished Johannes Berg
2006-04-13 12:15 ` Dan Williams
2006-04-13 23:58 [patch 1/3] softmac: return -EAGAIN from getscan while scanning Jean Tourrilhes
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2006-04-14 0:01 Jean Tourrilhes
2006-04-14 15:58 ` Herbert Xu
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