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From: Christian Limpach <Christian.Limpach@cl.cam.ac.uk>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, virtualization@lists.osdl.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	chrisw@sous-sol.org, ian.pratt@xensource.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 34/35] Add the Xen virtual network	device	driver.
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 15:00:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060509140027.GD7834@cl.cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1FdSDz-0008Lv-00@gondolin.me.apana.org.au>

On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 11:26:03PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Christian Limpach <Christian.Limpach@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > Possibly having to page in the process and switching to it would add
> > to the live migration time.  More importantly, having to install an
> > additional program in the guest is certainly not very convenient.
> 
> Sorry I'm still not convinced.  What's there to stop me from suspending
> my laptop to disk, moving it from port A to port B and resuming it?
> 
> Wouldn't I be in exactly the same situation? By the same reasoning we'd
> be adding a gratuitous ARP routine to every single laptop network driver.

It is the same situation except that in the laptop case you don't care
that reconfiguring your network will take a second or a few.  For live
migration we're looking at network downtime from as low as 60ms to
something like 210ms on a busy virtual machine.  I'm not saying that
a userspace solution wouldn't work but it would probably add a measurable
delay to the network downtime during live migration.

You might also find the following paper an interesting read:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/papers/2005-migration-nsdi-pre.pdf

    christian

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-09 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20060509084945.373541000@sous-sol.org>
2006-05-09  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH 34/35] Add the Xen virtual network device driver Chris Wright
2006-05-09 11:55   ` [Xen-devel] " Herbert Xu
2006-05-09 12:43     ` Christian Limpach
2006-05-09 13:01       ` Herbert Xu
2006-05-09 13:14         ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-09 13:16         ` Christian Limpach
2006-05-09 13:26           ` Herbert Xu
2006-05-09 14:00             ` Christian Limpach [this message]
2006-05-09 14:30               ` [Xen-devel] " David Boutcher
2006-05-09 23:35                 ` Chris Wright
2006-05-09 11:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-05-09 23:37     ` Chris Wright
2006-05-09 18:56   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-05-09 23:39     ` Chris Wright
2006-05-09 20:25   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-05-09 20:26     ` Keir Fraser
2006-05-09 20:46       ` Roland Dreier
2006-05-10 18:28         ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-11  0:33           ` Herbert Xu
2006-05-11  7:49             ` Keir Fraser
2006-05-11  8:04               ` Herbert Xu
2006-05-11  9:47               ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-11 16:18                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-05-11 16:48                 ` Rick Jones
2006-05-11 17:30                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-09 20:32     ` Chris Wright
2006-05-09 22:41   ` [Xen-devel] " Herbert Xu
2006-05-09 23:51     ` Chris Wright
2006-05-10  6:36       ` Keir Fraser

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