From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Phil Dibowitz Subject: Re: reminder, 2.6.18 window... Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:48:00 -0700 Message-ID: <20060524204800.GH22881@ipom.com> References: <20060523.182217.59656237.davem@davemloft.net> <447412CA.50303@ipom.com> <4474A489.4080308@garzik.org> <20060524185644.GF22881@ipom.com> <4474AE92.3030501@garzik.org> <20060524191442.GG22881@ipom.com> <1148501433.5325.52.camel@jzny2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZOudaV4lSIjFTlHv" Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, David Miller , Jeff Garzik Return-path: Received: from cpe-24-24-245-191.socal.res.rr.com ([24.24.245.191]:22069 "EHLO alt") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932383AbWEXUsD (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 May 2006 16:48:03 -0400 To: jamal Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1148501433.5325.52.camel@jzny2> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org --ZOudaV4lSIjFTlHv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 04:10:32PM -0400, jamal wrote: > Can you provide some link to a vendor that allows resetting ethernet > stats? I am almost certain, if they do they will have something or other > which indicates that such a reset happened. It is also easier for cisco > to have none standard feature "as of ios 15.16" which could support such > behavior because they bundle everything including network management > tools. We dont have that luxury. The BSDs may actually get away with it > because they bundle user space apps as well. Perhaps some > random Linux vendor as well.. Well, I can show you support on my home switch (cabletron) - the network gu= ys will be a little unhappy if I clear stats on our production network (cisco) without warning them: ***************************************************************************= ** Cabletron Systems ELS100-24TXG SWITCH STATISTICS Access Control: READ/WRITE ID TRANSMITTED RECEIVED FORWARDED FILTERED DROPPED ERRO= RED ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- 1 1322815 1614038 1614038 0 0 51= 562 2 2067032 18142545 18142349 0 196 = 0 3 17487573 1011964 1011964 0 0 = 0 4 18247 20528 20528 0 0 = 0 5 38775 0 0 0 0 = 0 6 38775 0 0 0 0 = 0 7 38775 0 0 0 0 = 0 8 38775 0 0 0 0 = 0 9 38820 0 0 0 0 = 0 10 38820 0 0 0 0 = 0 n. Next Page p. Previous Page f. First Page l. Last Page s. Switch Summary d. Port Statistics t. Trunking Statistics r. Refresh c. Clear x. Previous Menu Enter Selection:c ***************************************************************************= ** Cabletron Systems ELS100-24TXG SWITCH STATISTICS Access Control: READ/WRITE ID TRANSMITTED RECEIVED FORWARDED FILTERED DROPPED ERRO= RED ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- 1 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 9 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 10 0 0 0 0 0 = 0 n. Next Page p. Previous Page f. First Page l. Last Page s. Switch Summary d. Port Statistics t. Trunking Statistics r. Refresh c. Clear x. Previous Menu Enter Selection: > > If my patch was invasive and broke things,=20 >=20 > It _does break_ things for all known management apps.=20 > This is not to say it is not useful for testing, development or > debugging (which is what you seem to be using it for) but it does mean > it is broken.=20 Does having the ability to boot into single user mode break networking? No,= it *allows* you to break networking. Does the _support_ of rmmod break the kernel? No, but it *allows* you to. Same thing here. The patch breaks nothing, it provides a tool that if used without proper understanding, could break things. Just like almost any other feature in the kernel. --=20 Phil Dibowitz phil@ipom.com Freeware and Technical Pages Insanity Palace of Metallica http://www.phildev.net/ http://www.ipom.com/ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 --ZOudaV4lSIjFTlHv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEdMaAN5XoxaHnMrsRAuruAJwJpy26dwc6y580DxIvXmIgSEIbxgCcDHjr 9bnx++IT1ajJfCsQtlMn+1I= =jGt2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZOudaV4lSIjFTlHv--