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From: Brent Cook <bcook@bpointsys.com>
To: Phil Dibowitz <phil@ipom.com>
Cc: Bill Fink <billfink@mindspring.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: reminder, 2.6.18 window...
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 13:41:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200605251341.42204.bcook@bpointsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060525175947.GA29024@ipom.com>

On Thursday 25 May 2006 12:59, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
> On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 08:05:37AM -0500, Brent Cook wrote:
> > > I'll admit to not knowing all the intricacies of the kernel coding
> > > involved, but I don't offhand see how zeroing the stats would be
> > > significantly more complex than updating the stats during normal usage.
> > > But I'll have to leave that argument to the experts.
> >
> > What it boils down to is that currently, a single CPU or thread ever
> > touches the stats concurrently, so it doesn't have to lock them or do
> > anything special to ensure that the continue incrementing. If you want to
> > make sure that the statistics actually reset when you want them to, you
> > have to account for this case:
> >
> >   CPU0 reads current value from memory (increment)
> >   CPU1 writes 0 to current value in memory (reset)
> >   CPU0 writes incremented value to memory (increment complete)
>
> Perhaps I'm missing something here, but these counters are only incrimented
> in hardware... i.e. attomically.
>

No, you're right - I'm just thinking that once one driver has this ability, 
users are going to want it for all network devices, and implementation on 
some devices (namely virtual ones - lo, tun, tap, br, vlan) is trickier than 
just setting a register. Some hardware devices too - mv643xx_eth.c just 
increments the network stats in software, for instance. Lockless software 
reset is fine though as long as people understand the consequences - it's 
absolutely fine, given the way I would use reset in my environment, MMV.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-25 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-24  1:22 reminder, 2.6.18 window David Miller
2006-05-24  8:01 ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-24 18:21   ` jamal
2006-05-24 18:23   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-24 18:34     ` Rick Jones
2006-05-24 18:56     ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-24 19:05       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-24 19:14         ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-24 20:01           ` Brent Cook
2006-05-24 20:08             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-25  7:23               ` Bill Fink
2006-05-25 13:05                 ` Brent Cook
2006-05-25 16:12                   ` Bill Fink
2006-05-25 17:59                   ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-25 18:41                     ` Brent Cook [this message]
2006-05-25 19:22                       ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-25 20:29                         ` David Miller
2006-05-25 21:04                           ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-25 21:07                             ` David Miller
2006-05-26  9:52                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-25 13:34                 ` Dave Dillow
2006-05-26  9:46               ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-24 20:10           ` jamal
2006-05-24 20:25             ` Rick Jones
2006-05-25 15:27               ` jamal
2006-05-25 16:43                 ` Rick Jones
2006-05-26 22:06                   ` Rick Jones
2006-05-24 20:44             ` Brian Haley
2006-05-24 21:01               ` Rick Jones
2006-05-26  6:48               ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-24 20:48             ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-24 21:04               ` Rick Jones
2006-05-24 21:10                 ` Ben Greear
2006-05-25  5:01                   ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-25  7:18                     ` Ben Greear
2006-05-25  7:55                     ` Bill Fink
2006-05-25 12:17                     ` Francois Romieu
2006-05-25  9:53       ` Pekka Savola
2006-05-24 20:53     ` Andy
2006-05-26  9:43   ` Andi Kleen

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