From: Brent Cook <bcook@bpointsys.com>
To: Phil Dibowitz <phil@ipom.com>
Cc: Bill Fink <billfink@mindspring.com>,
Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: reminder, 2.6.18 window...
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 13:41:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200605251341.42204.bcook@bpointsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060525175947.GA29024@ipom.com>
On Thursday 25 May 2006 12:59, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
> On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 08:05:37AM -0500, Brent Cook wrote:
> > > I'll admit to not knowing all the intricacies of the kernel coding
> > > involved, but I don't offhand see how zeroing the stats would be
> > > significantly more complex than updating the stats during normal usage.
> > > But I'll have to leave that argument to the experts.
> >
> > What it boils down to is that currently, a single CPU or thread ever
> > touches the stats concurrently, so it doesn't have to lock them or do
> > anything special to ensure that the continue incrementing. If you want to
> > make sure that the statistics actually reset when you want them to, you
> > have to account for this case:
> >
> > CPU0 reads current value from memory (increment)
> > CPU1 writes 0 to current value in memory (reset)
> > CPU0 writes incremented value to memory (increment complete)
>
> Perhaps I'm missing something here, but these counters are only incrimented
> in hardware... i.e. attomically.
>
No, you're right - I'm just thinking that once one driver has this ability,
users are going to want it for all network devices, and implementation on
some devices (namely virtual ones - lo, tun, tap, br, vlan) is trickier than
just setting a register. Some hardware devices too - mv643xx_eth.c just
increments the network stats in software, for instance. Lockless software
reset is fine though as long as people understand the consequences - it's
absolutely fine, given the way I would use reset in my environment, MMV.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-25 18:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-24 1:22 reminder, 2.6.18 window David Miller
2006-05-24 8:01 ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-24 18:21 ` jamal
2006-05-24 18:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-24 18:34 ` Rick Jones
2006-05-24 18:56 ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-24 19:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-24 19:14 ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-24 20:01 ` Brent Cook
2006-05-24 20:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-25 7:23 ` Bill Fink
2006-05-25 13:05 ` Brent Cook
2006-05-25 16:12 ` Bill Fink
2006-05-25 17:59 ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-25 18:41 ` Brent Cook [this message]
2006-05-25 19:22 ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-25 20:29 ` David Miller
2006-05-25 21:04 ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-25 21:07 ` David Miller
2006-05-26 9:52 ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-25 13:34 ` Dave Dillow
2006-05-26 9:46 ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-24 20:10 ` jamal
2006-05-24 20:25 ` Rick Jones
2006-05-25 15:27 ` jamal
2006-05-25 16:43 ` Rick Jones
2006-05-26 22:06 ` Rick Jones
2006-05-24 20:44 ` Brian Haley
2006-05-24 21:01 ` Rick Jones
2006-05-26 6:48 ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-24 20:48 ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-24 21:04 ` Rick Jones
2006-05-24 21:10 ` Ben Greear
2006-05-25 5:01 ` Phil Dibowitz
2006-05-25 7:18 ` Ben Greear
2006-05-25 7:55 ` Bill Fink
2006-05-25 12:17 ` Francois Romieu
2006-05-25 9:53 ` Pekka Savola
2006-05-24 20:53 ` Andy
2006-05-26 9:43 ` Andi Kleen
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