From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: bidulock@openss7.org
Cc: draghuram@rocketmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Question about tcp hash function tcp_hashfn()
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 02:02:39 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060531.020239.00305778.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060531024954.A2458@openss7.org>
From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 02:49:54 -0600
> This would be faster than a Jenkins hash approach because it
> would not be necessary to calculate the hash function at all for
> in-window segments. Per packet overheads would decrease and
> better small packet performance would be experienced (i.e. your
> http server). It has better hash coverage because MD4 and other
> cryptographic algorithms used for initial sequence number
> selection have far better properties than Jenkins.
>
> What do you think?
I don't know how practical this is. The 4GB sequence space
wraps very fast on 10 gigabit, so we'd be rehashing a bit
and 100 gigabit would make things worse whenever that shows
up.
It is, however, definitely an interesting idea.
We also need the pure traditional hashes for net channels. I don't
see how we could use your scheme for net channels, because we are just
hashing in the interrupt handler of the network device driver in order
to get a queue to tack the packet onto, we're not interpreting the
sequence numbers and thus would not able to maintain the sequence
space based hashing state.
On a 3ghz cpu, the jenkins hash is essentially free. Even on slower
cpus, jhash_2words for example is just 20 cycles on a sparc64 chip.
It's ~40 integer instructions and they all pair up perfectly to
dual issue. We'd probably use jhash_3words() for TCP ipv4 which
would get us into the 30 cycle range.
A few years ago when I introduced jenkins into the tree, I thought
it's execution cost might be an issue. I really don't anymore.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-31 9:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20060531042908.10463.qmail@web51410.mail.yahoo.com>
[not found] ` <20060530235525.A30563@openss7.org>
2006-05-31 7:10 ` Question about tcp hash function tcp_hashfn() David Miller
2006-05-31 7:45 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 7:49 ` David Miller
2006-05-31 8:00 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 9:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 9:12 ` David Miller
2006-05-31 9:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 9:51 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 10:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 11:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 13:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 18:29 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 6:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 6:18 ` David Miller
2006-06-01 6:22 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 6:24 ` David Miller
2006-05-31 18:41 ` David Miller
2006-06-01 6:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 6:18 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 6:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 6:46 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 7:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 7:11 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 8:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 10:24 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 11:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 18:40 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 20:21 ` David Miller
2006-06-02 7:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-02 5:40 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-02 7:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-02 15:10 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-02 17:26 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-02 17:37 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 9:52 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 8:49 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 9:02 ` David Miller [this message]
2006-05-31 9:39 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20060531.020239.00305778.davem@davemloft.net \
--to=davem@davemloft.net \
--cc=bidulock@openss7.org \
--cc=draghuram@rocketmail.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).