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From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	draghuram@rocketmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org>
Subject: Re: Question about tcp hash function tcp_hashfn()
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:04:59 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060531110459.GA20551@2ka.mipt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060531105814.GB7806@2ka.mipt.ru>

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 02:58:18PM +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov (johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru) wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 03:51:24AM -0600, Brian F. G. Bidulock (bidulock@openss7.org) wrote:
> > Evgeniy,
> > 
> > On Wed, 31 May 2006, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > > 2. Compared Jenkins hash with XOR hash used in TCP socket selection code.
> > > http://tservice.net.ru/~s0mbre/blog/2006/05/14#2006_05_14
> > 
> > Two problems with the comparison:
> > 
> >   Port numbers can be collected into a 32 bit register in network
> >   byte order directly from the TCP packet without taking two 16 bit
> >   values and shifting and or'ing them.
> 
> They are.
> 
> u32 ports;
> 
> ports = lport;
> ports <<= 16;
> ports |= fport;

Using network or host byte order does not affect hash distribution,
that shifting was coded to simulate other types of mixing ports,
which actually never showed different results.

> >   Worse: he folded the jenkins algorith result with
> > 
> >    h ^= h >> 16;
> >    h ^= h >> 8;
> > 
> >   Destroying the coverage of the function.
> 
> It was done to simulate socket code which uses the same folding.
> Leaving 32bit space is just wrong, consider hash table size with that
> index.
> 
> > I, for one, am not suprised that artifacts appeared in the comparison
> > as a result of this destruction of the coverage of the hashing function.
> 
> It is comparison of the approach used in TCP hashing code, it is not full 
> mathematical analysis. And in that case jenkins hash already not good. 
> I'm sure it can be tuned, but it does require a lot of iterations, while
> XOR one "just works".

-- 
	Evgeniy Polyakov

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-31 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20060531042908.10463.qmail@web51410.mail.yahoo.com>
     [not found] ` <20060530235525.A30563@openss7.org>
2006-05-31  7:10   ` Question about tcp hash function tcp_hashfn() David Miller
2006-05-31  7:45     ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31  7:49       ` David Miller
2006-05-31  8:00         ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31  9:03           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31  9:12             ` David Miller
2006-05-31  9:44               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31  9:51             ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 10:58               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 11:04                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2006-05-31 13:06                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 18:29                     ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01  6:12                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01  6:18                         ` David Miller
2006-06-01  6:22                           ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01  6:24                             ` David Miller
2006-05-31 18:41                 ` David Miller
2006-06-01  6:04                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01  6:18                     ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01  6:30                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01  6:46                         ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01  7:01                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01  7:11                             ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01  8:38                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 10:24                                 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 11:06                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 18:40                                     ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 20:21                                       ` David Miller
2006-06-02  7:01                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-02  5:40                     ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-02  7:48                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-02 15:10                         ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-02 17:26                         ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-02 17:37                           ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31  9:52             ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31  8:49         ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31  9:02           ` David Miller
2006-05-31  9:39             ` Brian F. G. Bidulock

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