From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
draghuram@rocketmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org>
Subject: Re: Question about tcp hash function tcp_hashfn()
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:04:59 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060531110459.GA20551@2ka.mipt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060531105814.GB7806@2ka.mipt.ru>
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 02:58:18PM +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov (johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru) wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 03:51:24AM -0600, Brian F. G. Bidulock (bidulock@openss7.org) wrote:
> > Evgeniy,
> >
> > On Wed, 31 May 2006, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > > 2. Compared Jenkins hash with XOR hash used in TCP socket selection code.
> > > http://tservice.net.ru/~s0mbre/blog/2006/05/14#2006_05_14
> >
> > Two problems with the comparison:
> >
> > Port numbers can be collected into a 32 bit register in network
> > byte order directly from the TCP packet without taking two 16 bit
> > values and shifting and or'ing them.
>
> They are.
>
> u32 ports;
>
> ports = lport;
> ports <<= 16;
> ports |= fport;
Using network or host byte order does not affect hash distribution,
that shifting was coded to simulate other types of mixing ports,
which actually never showed different results.
> > Worse: he folded the jenkins algorith result with
> >
> > h ^= h >> 16;
> > h ^= h >> 8;
> >
> > Destroying the coverage of the function.
>
> It was done to simulate socket code which uses the same folding.
> Leaving 32bit space is just wrong, consider hash table size with that
> index.
>
> > I, for one, am not suprised that artifacts appeared in the comparison
> > as a result of this destruction of the coverage of the hashing function.
>
> It is comparison of the approach used in TCP hashing code, it is not full
> mathematical analysis. And in that case jenkins hash already not good.
> I'm sure it can be tuned, but it does require a lot of iterations, while
> XOR one "just works".
--
Evgeniy Polyakov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-31 11:05 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <20060530235525.A30563@openss7.org>
2006-05-31 7:10 ` Question about tcp hash function tcp_hashfn() David Miller
2006-05-31 7:45 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 7:49 ` David Miller
2006-05-31 8:00 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 9:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 9:12 ` David Miller
2006-05-31 9:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 9:51 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 10:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 11:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2006-05-31 13:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 18:29 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 6:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 6:18 ` David Miller
2006-06-01 6:22 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 6:24 ` David Miller
2006-05-31 18:41 ` David Miller
2006-06-01 6:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 6:18 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 6:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 6:46 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 7:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 7:11 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 8:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 10:24 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 11:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 18:40 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 20:21 ` David Miller
2006-06-02 7:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-02 5:40 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-02 7:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-02 15:10 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-02 17:26 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-02 17:37 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 9:52 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 8:49 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 9:02 ` David Miller
2006-05-31 9:39 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
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