From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
draghuram@rocketmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Question about tcp hash function tcp_hashfn()
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 04:24:57 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060601042457.B25584@openss7.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060601083805.GB754@2ka.mipt.ru>; from johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru on Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 12:38:05PM +0400
Evgeniy,
On Thu, 01 Jun 2006, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
For purely random numbers you could amplify thermal noise off an
open transitor junction (the audiofile's white noise generator)
and feed it into an analog to digital converter.
>
> I've run it with following source ip/port selection algo:
> if (++sport == 0) {
> saddr++;
> sport++;
> }
>
> Starting IP was 1.1.1.1 and sport was 1.
> Destination IP and port are the same 192.168.0.1:80
>
> Jenkins hash started to show different behaviour:
> it does not have previous artefacts, but instead it's dispersion is
> _much_ wider than in XOR case.
Aha! But perhaps this is too easy a data set. HTTP clients typically
dynamically allocate port numbers within a range and source address
are typically not less than a certain value. That is why I suggested
something like:
sport = 10000;
saddr = 0x0a000000; /* 10.0.0.0 */
...
if (++sport == 16000) {
sport = 10000;
saddr++;
}
If this shows artifacts worse than XOR then more realistic gaps in the
input values will cause artifacts.
>
> With following ip/port selection algo:
> if (++sport == 0) {
> //saddr++;
> sport += 123;
> }
>
> I see yet another jenkins artefacts, but again different from previous
> two.
Adding primes. Again, the arithmetic series of primes might auto-correlate
with the Jenkins function. Or it plain might not like gaps.
>
> But each time both folded and not folded hashes behave exactly the same.
>
> > Can you show the same artifacts for jenkins_3word?
>
> What should be used as starting point there?
> If I use 0 it is the same as jhash_2words().
> If I use 123123 - artefacts are the same, just slighly shifted (I tested
> only the latest test above though).
>
> Looking into the code we can see that jhash_2words() is jhash_3words()
> with zero "C" value, so it will show the same nature.
Skip that then.
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[not found] ` <20060530235525.A30563@openss7.org>
2006-05-31 7:10 ` Question about tcp hash function tcp_hashfn() David Miller
2006-05-31 7:45 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 7:49 ` David Miller
2006-05-31 8:00 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 9:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 9:12 ` David Miller
2006-05-31 9:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 9:51 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 10:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 11:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 13:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-05-31 18:29 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 6:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 6:18 ` David Miller
2006-06-01 6:22 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 6:24 ` David Miller
2006-05-31 18:41 ` David Miller
2006-06-01 6:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 6:18 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 6:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 6:46 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 7:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 7:11 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 8:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 10:24 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock [this message]
2006-06-01 11:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-01 18:40 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-01 20:21 ` David Miller
2006-06-02 7:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-02 5:40 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-02 7:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-02 15:10 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-02 17:26 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-02 17:37 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 9:52 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 8:49 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-31 9:02 ` David Miller
2006-05-31 9:39 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
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