From: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 09:27:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060605132732.GA23350@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060605085451.GA26766@infradead.org>
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 09:54:51AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 09:06:36PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 01:50:11PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > acx1xx-wireless-driver.patch
> > > fix-tiacx-on-alpha.patch
> > > tiacx-fix-attribute-packed-warnings.patch
> > > tiacx-pci-build-fix.patch
> > > tiacx-ia64-fix.patch
> > >
> > > It is about time we did something with this large and presumably useful
> > > wireless driver.
> >
> > I've never had technical objections to merging this, just AFAIK it had a
> > highly questionable origin, namely being reverse-engineered in a
> > non-clean-room environment that might leave Linux legally vulnerable.
>
> As are at leasdt a fourth of linux drivers. Andrew, please just go ahead
> and merge it (I'll do another review ASAP).
Actually, I was planning to merge the softmac-based version for 2.6.18.
It looks like I may want some of Andrew's patches on top (ia64, alpha, etc).
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/linville/wireless-2.6/master/
0003-wireless-add-acx-driver.txt
0004-acxsm-merge-from-acx-0.3.32.txt
0005-tiacx-Let-only-ACX_PCI-ACX_USB-be-user-visible.txt
0007-tiacx-revert-neither-PCI-nor-USB-is-selected-change.txt
0008-tiacx-implement-much-more-flexible-firmware-statistics-parsing.txt
0009-tiacx-Change-acx_ioctl_-get-set-_encode-to-use-kernel-80211-stack.txt
0010-tiacx-fix-breakage-of-Get-rid-of-circular-list-of-adev-s.txt
0011-tiacx-split-module-into-acx-common-acx-pci-acx-usb.txt
Of course, I didn't know there were serious concerns about this
driver's origin. I hope we aren't confusing this with the atheros
driver...?
> Please don't let this reverse engineering idiocy hinder wireless driver
> adoption, we're already falling far behind openbsd who are very successfull
> reverse engineering lots of wireless chipsets.
This bugbear does seem to keep visiting us. It is a bit of a
minefield.
I'm inclined to think that Christoph and Arjan are right, that we
have been too cautious. Of course, neither of these fine gentlemen
are known for their timidity... :-)
Does not the Signed-off-by: line on a patch submission give us some
level of "good faith" protection?
I'm tempted to take contributors at their word, that they have produced
their own work and not copied from others. What else do we need?
John
--
John W. Linville
linville@tuxdriver.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-05 13:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20060604135011.decdc7c9.akpm@osdl.org>
2006-06-05 1:06 ` wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans) Jeff Garzik
2006-06-05 1:15 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-05 8:33 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-06-05 8:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-05 10:26 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-05 10:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-05 10:59 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-10 6:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-05 8:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-05 12:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-05 12:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-05 12:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-05 14:02 ` Linux kernel and laws Adrian Bunk
2006-06-05 14:21 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-06-06 5:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-05 13:27 ` John W. Linville [this message]
2006-06-05 13:31 ` wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans) Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-05 13:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-05 16:24 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-29 14:26 ` ACX100 (softmac-based) driver ready to merge, but is it legal? -- " John W. Linville
[not found] ` <20060629144233.GB24463@tuxdriver.com>
2006-06-29 14:47 ` [Acx100-users] Denis Vlasenko, where are you? (mail bounced) Andreas Mohr
2006-07-06 17:29 ` ACX100 (softmac-based) driver ready to merge, but is it legal? Denis Vlasenko
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