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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Cc: Auke Kok <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>,
	"Garzik, Jeff" <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	Mitch Williams <mitch.a.williams@intel.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Brandeburg,
	Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	"Kok, Auke" <auke@foo-projects.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] e1000: fix netpoll with NAPI
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 18:17:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060606231727.GK24227@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x49zmgquqn0.fsf@segfault.boston.redhat.com>

On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:42:59PM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> ==> Regarding Re: [PATCH 1/2] e1000: fix netpoll with NAPI; Auke Kok <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com> adds:
> 
> auke-jan.h.kok> Jeff Moyer wrote:
> >> ==> Regarding Re: [PATCH 1/2] e1000: fix netpoll with NAPI; Auke Kok <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com> adds:
> auke-jan.h.kok> Neil Horman wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:39:25AM -0700, Mitch Williams wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 09:52 -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> auke-jan.h.kok> [snip]
> >> 
> >>>>> However, just for the sake of correctness (and paranoia), I'll whip up
> >>>>> another patch that does this check.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> Thanks for the quick feedback!
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Neil
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Jeff, please do not commit this patch.
> auke-jan.h.kok> Jeff,
> auke-jan.h.kok> I've popped the patch off from our gitserver, so you can
> >> pull the two
> auke-jan.h.kok> outstanding patches while we revamp this one.
> >> Would you please send patches to this list?  I'd certainly like to review
> >> them.  I don't think the problem needs solving in the e1000 driver.  I
> >> think it is an issue that should be handled properly by netpoll.
> 
> auke-jan.h.kok> ???
> 
> auke-jan.h.kok> that message was directed to Jeff Garzik, perhaps that was too confusing.
> 
> I figured it was directed at Jeff G.
> 
> auke-jan.h.kok> They were sent here in the first place:
> 
> auke-jan.h.kok> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-netdev&m=114954878711789&w=2
> 
> Thanks for the pointer.
> 
> As you noted, e1000 now uses a separate device for polling.  Netpoll should
> be able to deal with this, though.  I'd like to solicit mpm's input on
> this, as I'm having difficulties coming up with a clean solution.

It's a bit ad-hoc at the moment, but it might be a step towards a
cleaner model. 

> For some background, the netpoll_poll_lock calls were introduced to prevent
> recursion in a device driver's ->poll routine.  By essentially calling the
> poll routine from the poll_controller routine, you are no longer prevented
> from such recursion.
> 
> It would be best if the poll_controller routine was kept simple.  It should
> do the equivalent of the interrupt processing portion of the work, and
> leave the delivery to the network stack for a call to the ->poll routine.
> 
> Solving this at the netpoll layer will be a bit difficult, since we have no
> insight into the driver design (as your driver illustrates).  Up until now,
> our model worked well.

That's probably an overstatement.
 
> We could, potentially, walk the list of devices scheduled for a poll much
> the same as net_rx_action does.  However, we don't want to process work
> pending on other network adapters, only the one associated with the netpoll
> net device.  I can think of at least one way to make this distinction, but
> it feels too much like a hack.

Processing work on other devices may not be completely wrong. 
 
> Matt, any ideas on this?

Not at the moment.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-06 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-05 23:09 [PATCH 0/2] e1000: fixes for netpoll+NAPI, ARM Kok, Auke
2006-06-05 23:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] e1000: fix netpoll with NAPI Kok, Auke
2006-06-06 13:52   ` Neil Horman
2006-06-06 16:39     ` Mitch Williams
2006-06-06 17:05       ` Neil Horman
2006-06-06 17:18         ` Auke Kok
2006-06-06 17:30           ` Jeff Moyer
2006-06-06 17:34             ` Auke Kok
2006-06-06 17:42               ` Jeff Moyer
2006-06-06 23:17                 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2006-06-07 15:05                   ` Neil Horman
2006-06-07 16:48                     ` Matt Mackall
2006-06-07 18:25                       ` Auke Kok
2006-06-07 18:44                         ` Jeff Moyer
2006-06-07 19:18                           ` Neil Horman
2006-06-08 17:19                           ` Mitch Williams
2006-06-08 17:29                             ` Jeff Moyer
2006-06-12  0:13                               ` Neil Horman
2006-06-12 16:42                                 ` Mitch Williams
2006-06-12 18:06                                   ` Neil Horman
2006-06-14 20:41                                     ` Neil Horman
2006-06-14 23:44                                       ` Mitch Williams
2006-06-15 12:44                                         ` John W. Linville
2006-06-15 20:45                                           ` Mitch Williams
2006-06-20  8:28                                             ` Andrew Grover
2006-06-07 18:54                         ` John W. Linville
2006-06-08 17:23                           ` Mitch Williams
2006-06-08 18:39                             ` John W. Linville
2006-06-06 17:29       ` Jeff Moyer
2006-06-05 23:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] e1000: remove risky prefetch on next_skb->data Kok, Auke
2006-06-05 23:21   ` Rick Jones
2006-06-06  0:12     ` Brandeburg, Jesse
2006-06-06  0:16       ` Rick Jones
2006-06-06  0:22         ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-06  0:26         ` Brandeburg, Jesse

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