From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org>
To: Chase Venters <chase.venters@clientec.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 1/2] in-kernel sockets API
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:07:10 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060614000710.C7232@openss7.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200606131953.42002.chase.venters@clientec.com>; from chase.venters@clientec.com on Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 07:53:19PM -0500
Chase,
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Chase Venters wrote:
>
> > I don't think that it is fair to say that an unstable API/ABI, in of
> > itself, provides an incentive to open an existing proprietary driver.
>
> Sure it does, depending on your perspective and what you're willing to
> consider. The lack of a stable API/ABI means that if you don't want to have
> to do work tracking the kernel, you should push to have your drivers merged.
>
More work must be done to track the kernel before they are merged, thus
purposeless API changes, or unnecessary use of EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL impedes
merging
Not all useful kernel modules will nor should be merged GPL or not.
I think that a policy that intentionally makes it hard for proprietary
modules to be developed defeats the purpose of ultimate opening and merging.
It might end up causing something like iBCS, LinuxABI, SVR D3DK, or ODI to
flourish obviating the principal goal.
The interface currently under discussion is ultimately derived from the BSD
socket-protocol interface, and IMHO should be EXPORT_SYMBOL instead of
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL, if only because using _GPL serves no purpose here and can
be defeated with 3 or 4 obvious (and probably existing) lines of code. I
wrote similar wrappers for STREAMS TPI to Linux NET4 interface instead of
using pointers directly quite a few years ago. I doubt I was the first.
There is nothing really so novel here that it deserves _GPL.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-14 6:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-12 23:56 [RFC/PATCH 1/2] in-kernel sockets API Sridhar Samudrala
2006-06-13 5:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-06-13 11:13 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2006-06-13 11:22 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-13 21:12 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-06-13 21:40 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-13 22:00 ` Chase Venters
2006-06-13 22:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-06-13 22:47 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-13 23:59 ` Chase Venters
2006-06-14 0:31 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-14 0:53 ` Chase Venters
2006-06-14 6:07 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock [this message]
2006-06-14 7:58 ` Chase Venters
2006-06-14 9:28 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-14 10:43 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-14 10:54 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-14 10:36 ` Theodore Tso
2006-06-13 22:44 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-13 23:42 ` Ben Greear
2006-06-14 0:05 ` Chase Venters
2006-06-14 0:18 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-14 0:29 ` Chase Venters
2006-06-14 0:36 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-14 0:19 ` Ben Greear
2006-06-14 0:38 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-14 13:30 ` Harald Welte
2006-06-14 14:29 ` Erik Mouw
2006-06-14 15:26 ` Harald Welte
2006-06-14 17:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2006-06-14 18:03 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-06-14 20:52 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2006-06-13 14:58 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-13 16:27 ` Sridhar Samudrala
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