From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] [VLAN]: Update iif when receiving via VLAN device
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:03:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060627100309.GU1376@postel.suug.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44A0647A.1070209@trash.net> <44A05FE0.7070203@trash.net>
* Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> 2006-06-27 00:29
> Doesn't sound too silly (actually quite nifty in my opinion),
> but I'm not sure I understand correctly, binding to ifb doesn't
> work since it changes both skb->dev and skb->input_dev.
I don't understand this concern. So far the mirred action
updates iif but that can be made configurable.
* Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> 2006-06-27 00:49
> Small clarification: with queueing at ingress I mean queueing after
> the bottleneck. It might work if you introduce a virtual bottleneck,
> but in that case in my experience the bandwidth limit you have to use
> is dependant on the number of TCP flows, so usually you can't specify
> a limit that will always work, and its wasteful if there is a smaller
> number of TCP flows. The reason why you would do it, limiting or
> prioritizing incoming traffic on the _real_ bottleneck, is not
> achievable of course. Also noteworthy is that policers don't behave
> any better, and any other schemes I've tried (I also experienced a
> lot of with TCP rate control) have similar or related problems.
My interest in ingress queueing is mainly on a local delivery
case where skb->tstamp can be modified to control tcp metrics.
I agree that a lot of wrong expectations have developed with
IMQ and similiar devices.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-27 10:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-26 14:54 [PATCHSET] Towards accurate incoming interface information Thomas Graf
2006-06-25 22:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] [NET]: Use interface index to keep input device information Thomas Graf
2006-06-25 22:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] [VLAN]: Update iif when receiving via VLAN device Thomas Graf
2006-06-26 17:04 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-06-26 17:46 ` David Miller
2006-06-26 18:24 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-06-26 18:44 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-26 22:29 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-06-26 22:49 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-06-27 10:03 ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2006-06-27 13:07 ` jamal
2006-06-28 10:18 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-28 12:22 ` jamal
2006-06-28 13:01 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-28 13:46 ` jamal
2006-06-29 8:51 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-29 20:55 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-29 23:23 ` jamal
2006-06-29 23:39 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-29 23:47 ` David Miller
2006-06-30 0:08 ` jamal
2006-06-30 0:12 ` David Miller
2006-06-30 0:26 ` jamal
2006-06-30 0:29 ` David Miller
2006-06-30 0:44 ` Ben Greear
2006-06-30 0:48 ` jamal
2006-06-30 0:55 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 1:18 ` jamal
2006-06-30 0:03 ` jamal
2006-06-30 0:46 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 1:11 ` jamal
2006-06-30 13:08 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 13:20 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <44A52435.20909@6wind.com>
2006-06-30 13:36 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 13:43 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2006-06-30 17:01 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-06-30 17:02 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-06-30 13:57 ` jamal
2006-06-30 14:15 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 14:35 ` jamal
2006-06-30 15:40 ` Ben Greear
2006-06-30 16:32 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 17:13 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 17:18 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-06-30 17:32 ` jamal
2006-06-30 17:42 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-06-30 17:44 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 19:40 ` jamal
2006-06-30 20:17 ` David Miller
2006-06-30 17:42 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 19:34 ` jamal
2006-06-30 20:08 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 20:42 ` jamal
2006-06-30 17:27 ` Ben Greear
2006-06-30 21:09 ` jamal
2006-06-30 21:20 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 21:35 ` jamal
2006-06-30 23:22 ` Thomas Graf
2006-07-01 2:23 ` jamal
2006-07-01 11:51 ` Thomas Graf
2006-07-01 13:47 ` jamal
2006-06-30 17:19 ` jamal
2006-06-30 17:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-06-30 19:59 ` jamal
2006-06-30 20:30 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 20:33 ` David Miller
2006-06-30 20:54 ` jamal
2006-06-30 21:10 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-30 21:31 ` jamal
2006-06-30 23:45 ` Thomas Graf
2006-07-01 2:59 ` jamal
2006-07-01 11:28 ` Thomas Graf
2006-07-01 13:35 ` jamal
2006-07-08 10:54 ` Thomas Graf
2006-07-08 14:14 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-07-08 14:29 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-07-08 23:46 ` Thomas Graf
2006-07-08 23:48 ` Thomas Graf
2006-07-09 12:52 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-07-09 13:17 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-07-09 13:33 ` Thomas Graf
2006-07-09 14:03 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-07-09 14:19 ` Thomas Graf
2006-07-09 15:00 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-07-09 15:54 ` Thomas Graf
2006-07-09 23:06 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-07-01 2:47 ` Patrick McHardy
2006-06-30 17:34 ` Thomas Graf
2006-06-25 22:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] [PKT_SCHED]: Add iif meta match Thomas Graf
2006-06-27 15:07 ` [PATCHSET] Towards accurate incoming interface information Thomas Graf
2006-06-27 20:24 ` David Miller
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