From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Shailabh Nagar <nagar@watson.ibm.com>
Cc: pj@sgi.com, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, jlan@engr.sgi.com,
balbir@in.ibm.com, csturtiv@sgi.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hadi@cyberus.ca,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch][RFC] Disabling per-tgid stats on task exit in taskstats
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:56:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060630155612.36189ced.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44A57310.3010208@watson.ibm.com>
Shailabh Nagar <nagar@watson.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Based on previous discussions, the above solutions can be expanded/modified to:
>
> a) allow userspace to listen to a group of cpus instead of all. Multiple
> collection daemons can distribute the load as you pointed out. Doing collection
> by cpu groups rather than individual cpus reduces the aggregation burden on
> userspace (and scales better with NR_CPUS)
>
> b) do flow control on the kernel send side. This can involve buffering and sending
> later (to handle bursty case) or dropping (to handle sustained load) as pointed out
> by you, Jamal in other threads.
>
> c) increase receiver's socket buffer. This can and should always be done but no
> involvement needed.
>
>
> With regards to taskstats changes to handle the problem and its impact on userspace
> visible changes,
>
> a) will change userspace
> b) will be transparent.
> c) is immaterial going forward (except perhaps as a change in Documentation)
>
>
> I'm sending a patch that demonstrates how a) can be done quite simply
> and a patch for b) is in progress.
>
> If the approach suggested in patch a) is acceptable (and I'll provide the testing, stability
> results once comments on it are largely over), could taskstats acceptance in 2.6.18 go ahead
> and patch b) be added later (solution outline has already been provided and a prelim patch should
> be out by eod)
Throwing more CPUs at the problem makes heaps of sense.
It's not necessarily a userspace-incompatible change. As long as userspace
sets nl_pid to 0x00000000, future kernel revisions can treat that as "all
CPUs". Or userspace can be forward-compatible by setting nl_pid to
0xffff0000, or whatever.
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2006-06-29 19:10 ` [Patch][RFC] Disabling per-tgid stats on task exit in taskstats Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 19:23 ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 19:33 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-29 19:43 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 20:00 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-29 22:13 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 23:00 ` jamal
2006-06-29 20:01 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 21:22 ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 22:54 ` jamal
2006-06-30 0:38 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 1:05 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-30 1:11 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 1:30 ` jamal
2006-06-30 3:01 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 12:45 ` jamal
2006-06-30 2:25 ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30 2:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-30 2:43 ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30 18:53 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 19:10 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 19:19 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 20:19 ` jamal
2006-06-30 22:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-01 2:20 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-01 2:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-01 3:37 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-01 3:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-03 21:11 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-03 21:41 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-04 0:13 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04 0:38 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-04 20:19 ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-04 20:22 ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-04 0:54 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04 1:01 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-04 13:05 ` jamal
2006-07-04 15:18 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04 16:37 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04 19:24 ` jamal
2006-07-05 14:09 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-05 20:25 ` Chris Sturtivant
2006-07-05 20:32 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-03 4:53 ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-03 15:02 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-03 15:55 ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-03 16:31 ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-04 0:09 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04 19:59 ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-05 17:20 ` Jay Lan
2006-07-05 18:18 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 22:56 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
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