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From: Andrey Savochkin <saw@swsoft.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/7] net_device list cleanup: core
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:50:35 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060704185035.A29778@castle.nmd.msu.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060704091003.GA17961@infradead.org>; from "Christoph Hellwig" on Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 10:10:03AM

On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 10:10:03AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 11:24:05AM +0400, Andrey Savochkin wrote:
> > > Yes, it's a little more work as you need to audit all drivers to see what
> > > they are doing and find suitable abstractions but it's a must have that
> > > should have been done a lot earlier.
> > 
> > Hiding dev_base_head can be done by converting first_netdev/next_netdev into
> > functions and implementing for_each_netdev loop through them.
> > 
> > Or are you talking about abstractions like functions
> > for_each_netdev/find_netdev with callbacks?
> 
> an for_each_netdev with a callback makes sense and gives a cleaner
> abstraction, yes.  I don't think you should need a callback for the lookup
> structure.

Different modules want different kinds of lookup.
So, I'm thinking about something like ilookup5.

> 
> > Do you think that hiding the list internals is worth the additional
> > complexity and substantial increase of the patch size?
> 
> Yes, absolutely.  We've converted scsi hosts and devices from a model
> where drivers could directly access the list to strict iterators in the
> 2.5 series.  It's quite a lot of work as you have to understand what
> the drivers actually do (and to at least 50% they were doing something
> really stupid) and convert them to the right abstractions.

The next question: would people agree to review a patch doing this for
net_devices? :)

	Andrey

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-04 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-03  8:18 [patch 1/7] net_device list cleanup: core Andrey Savochkin
2006-07-03  8:18 ` [patch 2/7] net_device list cleanup: proc seq_file output Andrey Savochkin
2006-07-03  8:18 ` [patch 3/7] net_device list cleanup: netlink_dump Andrey Savochkin
2006-07-03  8:18 ` [patch 4/7] net_device list cleanup: drivers and non-IP protocols Andrey Savochkin
2006-07-07 19:18   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-07-03  8:18 ` [patch 5/7] net_device list cleanup: arch-dependent code and block devices Andrey Savochkin
2006-07-03  8:18 ` [patch 6/7] net_device list cleanup: dev_base removal Andrey Savochkin
2006-07-03  8:18 ` [patch 7/7] net_device list cleanup: debugging Andrey Savochkin
2006-07-03 17:46 ` [patch 1/7] net_device list cleanup: core Christoph Hellwig
2006-07-04  7:24   ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-07-04  9:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-07-04 14:50       ` Andrey Savochkin [this message]
2006-07-04 16:35         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-07-05  8:26           ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-07-07  4:34 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-07-07  7:54   ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-07-07 16:48     ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-07-10  6:53       ` Andrey Savochkin

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