From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [3/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation.
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:13:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060726101356.GA8443@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060726100848.GA2715@2ka.mipt.ru>
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 02:08:49PM +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 11:00:13AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig (hch@infradead.org) wrote:
> > > struct address_space_operations ext2_aops = {
> > > + .get_block = ext2_get_block,
> >
> > No way in hell. For whatever you do please provide a interface at
> > the readpage/writepage/sendfile/etc abstraction layer. get_block is
> > nothing that can be exposed to the common code.
>
> Compare this with sync read methods - all they do is exactly the same
> operations with low-level blocks, which are combined into nice exported
> function, so there is _no_ readpage layer - it calls only one function
> which works with blocks.
No. The abtraction layer there is ->readpage(s). _A_ common implementation
works with a get_block callback from the filesystem, but there are various
others. We've been there before, up to mid-2.3.x we had a get_block inode
operation and we got rid of it because it is the wrong abstraction.
> So it is not a technical problem, but political one.
It's a technical problem, and it's called get you abstractions right. And
ontop of that a political one and that's called get your abstraction coherent.
If you managed to argue all of us into accept that get_block is the right
abstraction (and as I mentioned above that's technically not true) you'd
still have the burden to update everything to use the same abstraction.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-26 10:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2006-07-25 22:01 ` async network I/O, event channels, etc David Miller
2006-07-25 22:55 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-26 6:28 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-26 9:18 ` [0/4] kevent: generic event processing subsystem Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-26 9:18 ` [1/4] kevent: core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-26 9:18 ` [2/4] kevent: network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-26 9:18 ` [3/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-26 9:18 ` [4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-26 10:00 ` [3/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Christoph Hellwig
2006-07-26 10:08 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-26 10:13 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2006-07-26 10:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-26 10:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-07-26 10:12 ` David Miller
2006-07-26 10:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-07-26 20:21 ` Phillip Susi
2006-07-26 14:14 ` Avi Kivity
2006-07-26 10:19 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-26 10:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-07-26 14:28 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-26 16:22 ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-07-27 6:49 ` Sébastien Dugué
2006-07-27 15:28 ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-07-27 18:14 ` Zach Brown
2006-07-27 18:29 ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-07-27 18:44 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-27 21:02 ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-07-28 7:31 ` Sébastien Dugué
2006-07-28 12:58 ` Sébastien Dugué
2006-08-11 19:45 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-12 18:29 ` Kernel patches enabling better POSIX AIO (Was Re: [3/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile) Suparna Bhattacharya
2006-08-12 19:10 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-12 19:28 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-09-04 14:37 ` Sébastien Dugué
2006-08-14 7:02 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2006-08-14 16:38 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-15 2:06 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-09-04 14:36 ` Sébastien Dugué
2006-09-04 14:28 ` Sébastien Dugué
2006-07-28 7:29 ` [3/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Sébastien Dugué
2006-07-31 10:11 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2006-07-28 7:26 ` Sébastien Dugué
2006-07-26 10:31 ` [1/4] kevent: core files Andrew Morton
2006-07-26 10:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-26 10:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 6:10 ` async network I/O, event channels, etc David Miller
2006-07-27 7:49 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 8:02 ` David Miller
2006-07-27 8:09 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-27 8:11 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-27 8:20 ` David Miller
2006-07-27 8:29 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-27 8:37 ` David Miller
2006-07-27 8:39 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-27 8:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 9:31 ` David Miller
2006-07-27 9:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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