From: Hugo Santos <hsantos@av.it.pt>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: kazunori@miyazawa.org, hadi@cyberus.ca, shemminger@osdl.org,
herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, usagi-core@linux-ipv6.org
Subject: Re: Regarding offloading IPv6 addrconf and ndisc
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:50:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060801115002.GX8334@innerghost.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060731.142307.35014994.davem@davemloft.net>
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David,
> So all of you userland control-plane fanatics, how will you handle
> things like NFS root with these daemon-required variants of NDISC and
> ARP?
Do it in the initial ramdisk, we only need the daemon to setup the
NDISC entries to talk to the NFS server. :-)
There is obviously a cost associated with this, a deployment cost.
But there are additional factors we must consider. In a later e-mail
you state that Linux is a generic purpose operating system; how many
users need to boot from a NFS root (besides myself :-)? I think that we
must take into consideration that currently Linux is used in lots of
distinct environments, not only Desktop computers, and servers, but
also smaller devices. Configuration/Flexibility vs. optimization is
something that varies a lot depending on the deployment you are talking
about, and in most of my scenarios, a small mobile device isn't
required at the moment to push 100Mbps (optimization) but must be
capable of verifying it's peers and maintaining secure connections
(flexibility). So, let's be generic?
I might have some cycles during the month to code up something in
this direction, at least for an initial review, i'll try to do so.
Also, the reliability of a system depends on a lot of things, but
please, let's not use the assumption that because everything sits in
the kernel, it will be stable as the number of 'points of failure' is
smaller; this is only true as long as people work to have stable
components -- and this is independent of where the components sit. A
few kernel versions ago (2.6.8 if i remember correctly) i couldn't even
remove a used network interface safely from the system without hanging
the network stack. It is possible to have stable user-space code, if
people developing it work to and make sure it is stable.
Hugo
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-01 11:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-27 11:25 Regarding offloading IPv6 addrconf and ndisc Hugo Santos
2006-07-27 12:25 ` Kazunori Miyazawa
2006-07-27 17:56 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-27 23:56 ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-28 1:34 ` David Miller
2006-07-28 1:45 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-28 2:27 ` David Miller
2006-07-28 3:13 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-28 3:20 ` David Miller
2006-07-28 3:31 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-28 4:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-07-28 8:34 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-28 12:45 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-07-29 13:34 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-30 3:28 ` Kazunori Miyazawa
2006-07-30 11:30 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-31 21:23 ` David Miller
2006-08-01 11:50 ` Hugo Santos [this message]
2006-08-01 21:54 ` David Miller
2006-08-01 0:16 ` Kazunori Miyazawa
2006-07-28 2:22 ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-28 2:33 ` David Miller
2006-08-01 0:31 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-01 0:46 ` David Miller
2006-08-01 0:49 ` Roland Dreier
2006-08-01 1:24 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-08-01 1:30 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-01 1:47 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-08-01 12:13 ` Hugo Santos
2006-08-01 12:00 ` Hugo Santos
2006-08-01 21:57 ` David Miller
2006-08-03 13:28 ` Ingo Oeser
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