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From: "Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@axis.com>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@znyx.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com,
	jesse.brandeburg@intel.com, mchan@broadcom.com,
	shemminger@osdl.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [e1000]: Remove unnecessary tx_lock
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:04:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060807170403.GA10818@edgar.underground.se.axis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1154968319.5446.30.camel@jzny2>

On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 12:31:59PM -0400, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-07-08 at 17:59 +0200, Edgar E. Iglesias wrote:
> 
> > Ok, I thought you wanted the code inside the ifdefs to be considered. If not,
> > I guess there is no problem. Yes, the forwarding case does not suffer from
> > any deadlocks issues that I am aware of.
> > 
> 
> >From my tests:
> It does _not_ provide any performance improvements and at some point i decided
> i didnt want to add more variables to analyze, so i got rid of it; I would have 
> had to hand edit the patch to totally remove it; so that why you still see the 
> ifdefed out variant.
> 
> > No, the deadlock happens only if you don't prune the descriptors. If the host
> > sends some data and then goes quite, fdesc < tx_ring->prunet might not be
> > true for a long time and skbs will end up sitting in the tx ring indefinitely,
> > charging the socket's sndbuf.
> > 
> 
> Note: I didnt get rid of the rx path pruning. i.e that is still on. It
> just prunes lesser descriptors with that change on the tx. So not very
> different from before.
> 
> I think i may be getting a gist now of the discussion after a re-read; 
> while packets are still charged to TCP may have been transmitted they may sit
> on the tx ring forever. They will only be pruned if we had netif_stopped
> (and even that is not good enough with Jesse's threshold check) or if a
> new packet comes in destined for us. 
> Did i understand correctly? If yes, i didnt introduce this challenge it
> has always been there. I think i understand the suggestion now from
> Dave/Herbert to orphan those skbs... 

I'll give you an example.

A TCP flow sends X data and later waits for a response, host is now quietly
waiting. Assume fdesc >= tx_ring->prunet, so we dont free any skbs, right?

Now assume that some part of X data gets lost, our retransmit timer hits and
we want to retransmit but our socket is charged with too much data sitting on
the nics tx-ring, so we don't send anything. By orphaning, those skbs won't
charge the socket and the flow can retransmit.

Best regards
-- 
        Programmer
        Edgar E. Iglesias <edgar.iglesias@axis.com> 46.46.272.1946

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-07 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-03 13:15 [PATCH] [e1000]: Remove unnecessary tx_lock jamal
2006-08-03 14:02 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-03 14:24   ` jamal
2006-08-03 16:36   ` Brandeburg, Jesse
2006-08-03 18:05     ` Michael Chan
2006-08-03 22:08       ` jamal
2006-08-04  0:09         ` Michael Chan
2006-08-04  1:10           ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04  8:37             ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 10:10               ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 10:16                 ` jamal
2006-08-04 10:25                   ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 10:45                     ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:04                     ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:06                       ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 23:21                         ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:30                           ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 16:45                   ` jamal
2006-08-04 17:12                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-04 17:28                 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-04 18:08                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-04 23:31                     ` David Miller
2006-08-05 16:56                       ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:05                         ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 23:17                           ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:19                             ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 23:36                               ` jamal
2006-08-06  2:51                                 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06  7:14                                   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06  7:24                                     ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06  7:30                                       ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06  7:26                                     ` David Miller
2006-08-06  7:36                                       ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06  8:06                                         ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06  8:27                                           ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06  9:03                                             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06  9:10                                               ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06  9:18                                                 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06  8:35                                         ` David Miller
2006-08-06 12:24                                   ` jamal
2006-08-06 12:33                                     ` jamal
2006-08-06 23:16                                       ` Jesse Brandeburg
2006-08-07 12:50                                         ` jamal
2006-08-07 15:21                                           ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 15:40                                             ` jamal
2006-08-07 15:59                                               ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 16:31                                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-08-07 17:04                                                   ` Edgar E. Iglesias [this message]
2006-08-07 18:00                                                     ` jamal
2006-08-07 18:47                                                       ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 19:03                                                         ` jamal
2006-08-07 19:14                                                           ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 19:34                                                             ` jamal
2006-08-07 20:28                                                               ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-08  0:52                                                                 ` jamal
2006-08-07 20:53                                                           ` Brandeburg, Jesse
2006-08-08  1:07                                                             ` jamal
2006-08-07 23:23                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-07 23:35                                                             ` Brandeburg, Jesse
2006-08-07 23:40                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-07 16:29                                               ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 16:36                                                 ` jamal
2006-08-06 19:22                                     ` jamal
2006-08-08  1:19                                     ` jamal
2006-08-08  1:22                                       ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-08  1:33                                         ` jamal
2006-08-08  2:17                                           ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-08  3:10                                             ` jamal
2006-08-08 12:21                                   ` jamal
2006-08-08 12:39                                     ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 17:20                           ` Michael Chan
2006-08-06 23:04                             ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-07  3:56                               ` Michael Chan
2006-08-07  4:21                                 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-08 17:04                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-08 22:06                         ` David Miller
2006-08-08 23:21                           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-09  0:25                             ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-09  1:25                               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-04  1:16           ` jamal
2006-08-04  1:18             ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04  1:25               ` jamal
2006-08-04  4:06             ` Michael Chan
2006-08-03 22:06     ` jamal
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-08-08  5:43 Brandeburg, Jesse

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