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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] [NETLINK]: Handle NLM_F_ECHO in netlink_rcv_skb()
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:02:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060810190210.GH14627@postel.suug.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060810155120.GA494@ms2.inr.ac.ru>

* Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru> 2006-08-10 19:51
> > This patch handles NLM_F_ECHO in netlink_rcv_skb() to
> > handle it in a central point. Most subsystems currently
> > interpret NLM_F_ECHO as to just unicast events to the
> > originator of the change while the real meaning of the
> > flag is to echo the request.
> 
> Do not you think it is useless to echo something back to originator,
> who just sent it?
> 
> Actually, the sense of NLM_F_ECHO was to tell user what happened due to
> his request. The answer is not original request, which can contain
> some incomplete fields etc., but full information about object
> deleted/added/changed. Moreover, the feedback can contain several
> messages (though accurately it is done only in net/sched/), f.e. when
> the request triggered deletion of one object and addition of another.
> 
> Obviously, it cannot be done in a central place.
> 
> Normally, it is not needed, "ip route add" does not tell user, what
> actually was done, so that it suppresses echo. But for multistage
> operation it is absolutely necessary: the answer contains f.e. auto-allocated
> handles, which should be given in subsequent requests.

What's wrong with listening to the notification for that purpose?

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-10 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-09 20:48 [PATCHSET]: Clean up netlink NLM_F_ECHO and rtnl event notifications Thomas Graf
2006-08-08 22:00 ` [PATCH 1/4] [NETLINK]: Handle NLM_F_ECHO in netlink_rcv_skb() Thomas Graf
2006-08-10 15:51   ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-10 19:02     ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2006-08-10 20:32       ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-10 21:18         ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-11 15:35           ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-11 21:47             ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-12 11:03               ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-12 11:19                 ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 13:45                   ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-12  3:05             ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-12 11:05               ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-08 22:00 ` [PATCH 2/4] [RTNETLINK]: Use rtnl_multicast()/rtnl_unicast() Thomas Graf
2006-08-09 21:00   ` [RESEND " Thomas Graf
2006-08-08 22:00 ` [PATCH 3/4] [NETLINK]: Dont set socket error for failed event notifications Thomas Graf
2006-08-10 18:09   ` Patrick McHardy
2006-08-10 19:04     ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-10 19:08       ` Patrick McHardy
2006-08-10 19:23         ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-11  6:02           ` David Miller
2006-08-11 10:38             ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-11 10:42               ` David Miller
2006-08-08 22:00 ` [PATCH 4/4] [RTNETLINK]: Unexport global rtnl sock Thomas Graf
2006-08-10  4:16 ` [PATCHSET]: Clean up netlink NLM_F_ECHO and rtnl event notifications David Miller

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