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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: hasso@estpak.ee, kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, hadi@cyberus.ca,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/16] [IPv6] address: Convert address notification to use rtnl_notify()
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:40:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060816114003.GY14627@postel.suug.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060816111240.GA28846@gondor.apana.org.au>

* Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> 2006-08-16 21:12
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 12:58:56PM +0200, Thomas Graf wrote:
> > 
> > All route and tc notifications already use the pid so applications
> > can decide whether the event was caused by them. A notification
> > is a reply to a request so it doesn't even violate RFC 2367.
> 
> Actually most IPv4 notifications *do* set the pid to zero which is
> the right thing to do for kernel-generated messages.
> 
> You're right though that the IPv6 notification modified by this patch
> does set the pid to the netlink originator.  Looking back in history
> it seems that this behaviour was only introduced last year to a subset
> of notifications.

It was added to help quagga identify which route modifications
are self caused. It's not possible to use rtm_protocol for this
purpose as other applications can delete routes added by quagga.

> This inconsistency is very bad.  IMHO this change (made last year)
> should be reverted so that all kernel generated (broadcast) notifications
> have the originator set to zero to match the source address of the
> message.

We can't just knowingly break quagga.

I think it's a good thing to include the pid, it's additional
information that is helpful to userspace. Userspace is already
aware that the notifications are orignating from the kernel,
we can't do userspace -> userspace communication anymore anyway.

> Any notification that sets the netlink pid to current->pid is
> *completely* bogus.  Let me repeat this, the netlink pid is not
> a process ID.

Everyone is aware of that, actually these patches fix all
occurences of current->pid by replacing them with a pid of 0.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-08-16 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-14 21:37 [PATCHSET] rtnetlink notification rework Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 01/16] [RTNETLINK]: Use rtnl_unicast() for rtnetlink unicasts Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 02/16] [NETLINK]: Add notification message sending interface Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 03/16] [RTNETLINK]: Add rtnetlink notification interface Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 04/16] [NET] fib_rules: Convert fib rule notification to use rtnl_notify() Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 05/16] [NEIGH]: Convert neighbour notifications ot " Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 06/16] [DECNET]: Convert DECnet notifications to " Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 07/16] [IPv4] address: Convert address notification " Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 08/16] [IPv4] route: Convert route notifications " Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 09/16] [IPv6] address: Convert address notification " Thomas Graf
2006-08-14 23:43   ` jamal
2006-08-14 23:51     ` jamal
2006-08-15  7:20       ` Hasso Tepper
2006-08-15  9:50         ` jamal
2006-08-15  0:07     ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-15  0:12       ` jamal
2006-08-15  0:36     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-15  0:56       ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-15  2:46         ` jamal
2006-08-15  3:03           ` jamal
2006-08-15 11:17       ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-15 12:08         ` Hasso Tepper
2006-08-15 12:23           ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-16  2:58             ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-16  3:04               ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-16 10:58               ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-16 11:03                 ` jamal
2006-08-16 11:12                 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-16 11:39                   ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-16 12:04                     ` jamal
2006-08-16 12:08                       ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-16 12:08                       ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-16 12:36                         ` jamal
2006-08-16 13:04                           ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-16 13:11                             ` jamal
2006-08-16 12:13                     ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-16 11:40                   ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2006-08-16 11:57                     ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-16 12:05                       ` Thomas Graf
2006-08-16 12:08                         ` jamal
2006-08-16 12:54               ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 10/16] [IPv6] route: Convert route notifications " Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 11/16] [IPv6] link: Convert link " Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 12/16] [IPv6] prefix: Convert prefix " Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 13/16] [BRIDGE]: Convert " Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 14/16] [WIRELESS]: " Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 15/16] [NET] link: " Thomas Graf
2006-08-13 22:00 ` [PATCH 16/16] [RTNETLINK]: Unexport rtnl socket Thomas Graf
2006-08-15  7:38 ` [PATCHSET] rtnetlink notification rework David Miller

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