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From: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
To: Dmitry Mishin <dim@openvz.org>
Cc: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>,
	devel@openvz.org, Kir Kolyshkin <kir@openvz.org>,
	Andrey Savochkin <saw@sw.ru>,
	alexey@sw.ru, Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, sam@vilain.net
Subject: Re: [Devel] Re: [RFC] network namespaces
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:11:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060908181154.GA8745@MAIL.13thfloor.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200609081710.09124.dim@openvz.org>

On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 05:10:08PM +0400, Dmitry Mishin wrote:
> On Thursday 07 September 2006 21:27, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> > well, who said that you need to have things like RAW sockets
> > or other protocols except IP, not to speak of iptable and
> > routing entries ...
> >
> > folks who _want_ full network virtualization can use the
> > more complete virtual setup and be happy ...

> Let's think about how to implement this.

> As I understood VServer's design, your proposal is to split
> CAP_NET_ADMIN to multiple capabilities and use them if required. So,
> for your light-weight container it is enough to implement context
> isolation for protected by CAP_NET_IP capability (for example) code
> and put 'if (!capable(CAP_NET_*))' checks to all other places. 

actually the light-weight ip isolation runs perfectly
fine _without_ CAP_NET_ADMIN, as you do not want the
guest to be able to mess with the 'configured' ips at
all (not to speak of interfaces here)

best,
Herbert

> But this could be easily implemented over OpenVZ code by
> CAP_VE_NET_ADMIN split.
> 
> So, the question is:
> Could you point out the places in Andrey's implementation of network
> namespaces, which prevents you to add CAP_NET_ADMIN separation later?
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Dmitry.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-08 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-15 14:20 [RFC] network namespaces Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-15 14:48 ` [PATCH 1/9] network namespaces: core and device list Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-16 14:46   ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-16 16:45     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-15 14:48 ` [PATCH 2/9] network namespaces: IPv4 routing Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-15 14:48 ` [PATCH 3/9] network namespaces: playing and debugging Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-16 16:46   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-16 17:22     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-17  6:28       ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-17  8:30     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-15 14:48 ` [PATCH 4/9] network namespaces: socket hashes Andrey Savochkin
2006-09-18 15:12   ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-09-20 16:32     ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-09-21 12:34       ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-08-15 14:48 ` [PATCH 5/9] network namespaces: async socket operations Andrey Savochkin
2006-09-22 15:33   ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-09-23 13:16     ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-15 14:48 ` [PATCH 6/9] allow proc_dir_entries to have destructor Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-15 14:48 ` [PATCH 7/9] net_device seq_file Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-15 14:48 ` [PATCH 8/9] network namespaces: device to pass packets between namespaces Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-15 14:48 ` [PATCH 9/9] network namespaces: playing with pass-through device Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-16 11:53 ` [RFC] network namespaces Serge E. Hallyn
2006-08-16 15:12   ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-08-16 17:35     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-17  8:29       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-09-05 13:34   ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-09-05 14:45     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-05 15:32       ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-09-05 16:53       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-09-05 18:27         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-06 14:52           ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-09-06 15:09             ` [Devel] " Kir Kolyshkin
2006-09-06  9:10         ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-09-06 16:56           ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-09-06 17:37             ` [Devel] " Kir Kolyshkin
2006-09-06 18:34               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-06 18:58                 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-09-06 20:53                   ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-09-06 23:06                 ` Caitlin Bestler
2006-09-06 23:25                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-07  0:53                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-07  5:11                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-07  8:25                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-09-07 18:29                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-08  6:02                       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-09-07 16:23                 ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-09-07 17:27                   ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-09-07 19:50                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-08 13:10                     ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-09-08 18:11                       ` Herbert Poetzl [this message]
2006-09-09  7:57                         ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-09-10  2:47                           ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-09-10  3:41                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-10  8:11                               ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-09-10 11:48                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-10 19:19                               ` [Devel] " Herbert Poetzl
2006-09-10  7:45                             ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-09-10 19:22                               ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-09-12  3:26                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-11 14:40                           ` [Devel] " Daniel Lezcano
2006-09-11 14:57                             ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-09-11 15:04                               ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-09-11 15:10                               ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-09-12  3:28                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-12  7:38                                   ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-09-06 21:44               ` [Devel] " Daniel Lezcano
2006-09-06 17:58             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-05 15:47     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-09-05 17:09     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-06 20:25       ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-09-06 20:40         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-10-04  9:40 ` Daniel Lezcano

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