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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: bert hubert <bert.hubert@netherlabs.nl>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: tcp congestion policy selection link order fragile
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:41:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060918164120.7d658e8b@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060917145150.GA7223@outpost.ds9a.nl>

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:51:50 +0200
bert hubert <bert.hubert@netherlabs.nl> wrote:

> The original message Stephen reacts to below apparently never made it to the
> list, it can be found here: http://ds9a.nl/tmp/module-policy.txt
> 
> > Any body who builds in random stuff without thinking is being foolish.
> > But, if you can think of a better configuration method that isn't too
> > grotty, then go for it.
> 
> The method I'm proposing is simple enough:
> 
> 1) reno is always built-in
> 2) it is the default tcp congestion policy

No, Reno is unstable in high BDP

> 3) loading/compiling-in additional tcp congestion policies only make them
>    available
> 4) userspace is free to select a non-default tcp congestion policy at will
> 
> The implementation might be as simple as making the *first* registered
> congestion policy the default (instead of the last one) which would be reno,
> as it is in tcp_cong.o, which is probably always loaded first (as the other
> .o's need symbols that are in tcp_cong.o).
> 
> Despite what you allege about my foolishness, I maintain that a kernel that
> enables a *random policy* from the ones you compiled in, is not a sane
> kernel.
> 
> The default kernel should be as sane as possible, allowing the userspace
> people (ie, me) to mess things up to their heart's desire.
> 
> 	Bert
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-18 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-16 22:19 2.6.18-rc[67] crashes in TCP ack handling bert hubert
2006-09-16 23:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-17 10:11   ` bert hubert
2006-09-17 11:53     ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found]       ` <20060917122153.GA2932@outpost.ds9a.nl>
2006-09-17 13:11         ` tcp congestion policy selection link order fragile Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-17 14:51           ` bert hubert
2006-09-18 23:41             ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-09-18  8:51         ` David Miller
2006-09-18  9:59           ` bert hubert
2006-09-18 14:06             ` David Miller
2006-09-18 15:40               ` bert hubert
2006-09-18 18:53                 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 19:52                   ` bert hubert
2006-09-19  4:41                     ` [PATCH] tcp: set congestion default through Kconfig Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19  5:08                       ` Ian McDonald
2006-09-19 10:03                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-19 12:35                         ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2006-09-19 16:10                           ` David Miller
2006-09-19 17:28                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 15:29                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 19:29                       ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:30                       ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:33                       ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:39                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 20:41                         ` [PATCH] tcp: set congestion default through Kconfig (v2) Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 21:20                           ` David Miller
2006-09-19 21:32                             ` [PATCH] tcp: simpler bic default Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 21:43                               ` bert hubert
2006-09-19 22:44                                 ` David Miller
2006-09-19 23:02                                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-19 23:04                                     ` David Miller
2006-09-19 23:23                                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-20  8:17                                         ` bert hubert
2006-09-20 20:28                                           ` [PATCH] tcp: default congestion control menu Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-25  3:12                                             ` David Miller
2006-09-20 20:32                                           ` [PATCH] tcp: make cubic the default Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-23 11:14                                             ` tested: " bert hubert
2006-09-23 20:00                                               ` David Miller
2006-09-25  3:13                                             ` David Miller
2006-09-19 21:38                             ` [PATCH] tcp: set congestion default through Kconfig (v2) bert hubert

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