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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	master@sectorb.msk.ru, hawk@diku.dk, harry@atmos.washington.edu,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:19:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200609181719.34160.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1158592789.6069.115.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Monday 18 September 2006 17:19, Alan Cox wrote:
> Ar Llu, 2006-09-18 am 16:29 +0200, ysgrifennodd Andi Kleen:
> > The only delay this would add would be the queueing time from the NIC
> > to the softirq. Do you really think that is that bad?
> 
> If you are trying to do things like network record/playback then you
> want the minimal delay. 

But it's not minimal. Maybe it was long ago when the code was designed
on a 3c509 but not with modern hardware: Think interrupt mitigation and NAPI. 

And with NAPI we tend to process the packets directly after they
are fetched out of the RX queue, so there is practically no delay
between driver seeing the packet and softirq seeing it.  All the queuing
is done either at hardware level or later at socket level.

> There's a reason the original timestamp code 
> supported the hardware setting the timestamp itself - we actually had a
> separare set of logic on a board that was doing the timestamping by
> watching the IRQ line of the NIC chip.

That would be fine too (because it will be likely fast), but unfortunately
I don't know of any driver that does that.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-18 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4492D5D3.4000303@atmos.washington.edu>
2006-06-17 22:35 ` Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20 Andrew Morton
2006-06-17 23:23   ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-17 23:56     ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-18  3:16       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-06-18 23:23         ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-19 13:54         ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-20  2:11           ` Herbert Xu
2006-06-19 14:47     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-06-19 15:24       ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-19 17:34         ` Chris Friesen
2006-06-19 20:39           ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-19 18:24         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-06-25 21:51           ` Harry Edmon
2006-06-26  4:20             ` Bill Fink
2006-06-25 22:22         ` Willy Tarreau
2006-06-26  5:23           ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 11:41             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-07-04 11:54               ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-10 10:55                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2006-09-16 12:08         ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18  8:35           ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18  9:03             ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18  9:58               ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 10:29                 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 11:27                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 15:38                     ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 15:54                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 16:28                         ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 16:50                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 21:03                             ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:22                               ` David Miller
2006-09-18 21:46                                 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-19  5:55                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-19 20:31                                 ` Thomas Graf
2006-09-19 20:43                                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-19  5:52                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 21:18                             ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 22:00                               ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-18 21:57                                 ` David Lang
2006-09-19 19:40                                   ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:44                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-09-18 22:03                                 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-19 19:41                                   ` David Miller
2006-09-19 19:47                                 ` David Miller
2006-09-22 15:35                                   ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-09-22 15:43                                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-22 16:51                                       ` Rick Jones
2007-03-06 13:25                                         ` Packet timestamps (was: Re: Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20) Vladimir B. Savkin
2007-03-06 14:38                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-06 14:43                                             ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2007-03-06 15:16                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-06 18:15                                                 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 21:08                     ` Network performance degradation from 2.6.11.12 to 2.6.16.20 Vladimir B. Savkin
2006-09-18 14:09                 ` David Miller
2006-09-18 14:29                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-18 15:19                     ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 15:19                       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-06-19 16:40       ` Harry Edmon

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