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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@mellanox.co.il>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, openib-general@openib.org,
	Roland Dreier <rolandd@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature.
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:43:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061010104315.61540986@freekitty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061010144330.GA28175@mellanox.co.il>

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:43:30 +0200
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@mellanox.co.il> wrote:

> Quoting r. Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>:
> > Subject: Re: Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature.
> > 
> > On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 19:47:05 +0200
> > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@mellanox.co.il> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi!
> > > I'm trying to build a network device driver supporting a very large MTU (around 64K)
> > > on top of an infiniband connection, and I've hit a couple of issues I'd
> > > appreciate some feedback on:
> > > 
> > > 1. On the send side,
> > >    I've set NETIF_F_SG, but hardware does not support checksum offloading,
> > >    and I see "dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature" warning,
> > >    and I seem to be getting large packets all in one chunk.
> > >    The reason I've set NETIF_F_SG, is because I'm concerned that under real life
> > >    stress Linux won't be able to allocate 64K of continuous memory.
> > > 
> > >    Is this concern of mine valid? I saw in-tree drivers allocating at least 8K.
> > >    What's the best way to enable S/G on send side?
> > >    Is checksum offloading really required for S/G?
> > 
> > Yes, in the current implementation, Linux needs checksum offload. But there
> > is no reason, your driver can't compute the checksum in software.
>
> Are there drivers that do this already? Couldn't find any such beast ...

dev_queue_xmit() does it, all you need to do in your driver is:
	
	/* If packet is not checksummed and device does not support
	 * checksumming for this protocol, complete checksumming here.
	 */
	if (skb->ip_summed == CHECKSUM_PARTIAL) {
	      	if (skb_checksum_help(skb))
	      		goto error_recovery
	}


> I'm worried whether an extra pass over data won't eat up all of
> the performance gains I get from the large MTU ...

Yup, the cost is in touching the data, not in the copy.

> > >    What are the helpers legal for fragmented skb?
> 
> BTW, I found skb_put_frags in sky2 which seems generic enough - I even wander
> why isn't this in net/core.
> 

Only because I just wrote it for my needs. If you need it, then it
can be moved to skbuff.c



-- 
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-10 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-09 17:47 Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-09 16:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-10 14:43   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-10 17:43     ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-10-11  0:13       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11  0:15         ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-11  0:26           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11  3:33             ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-11  3:36               ` David Miller
2006-10-11  3:42                 ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-11  3:45                   ` David Miller
2006-10-11  3:49                     ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-11  3:50                       ` David Miller
2006-10-11  2:15         ` David Miller
2006-10-11  9:05           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11  9:09             ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-10-11 15:01               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 20:11                 ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-10-11 20:52                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 20:57                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-11 21:23                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 21:29                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-11 21:42                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 21:41                       ` David Miller
2006-10-12 19:12                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-13  4:22                           ` David Miller
2006-10-13  6:17                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 20:52                 ` David Miller
2006-10-11 21:11                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11  9:20             ` David Miller
2006-10-11  9:46               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 18:21                 ` [openib-general] " Michael Krause
2006-10-11 13:11               ` [RFC] Question about potential problem in net/ipv4/route.c Eric Dumazet
2006-10-12  5:05                 ` David Miller
2006-10-12  5:31                   ` Patrick McHardy
2006-10-12  5:54                     ` David Miller
2006-10-12  5:48                   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-12  6:02                     ` David Miller
2006-10-12  6:10                       ` Patrick McHardy
2006-10-12  6:25                         ` David Miller
2006-10-12  6:35                       ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-12  7:48                         ` David Miller
2006-10-16  9:00                 ` [PATCH] NET : Suspicious locking in reqsk_queue_hash_req() Eric Dumazet
2006-10-16  9:07                   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-16 16:16                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2006-10-16 16:56                       ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-16 17:39                         ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-16 20:41                   ` David Miller

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