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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: Steven Whitehouse <steve@chygwyn.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@mellanox.co.il>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	openib-general@openib.org, rolandd@cisco.com
Subject: Re: Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature.
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:57:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061011135720.303f166b@freekitty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061011201138.GA21657@fogou.chygwyn.com>

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:11:38 +0100
Steven Whitehouse <steve@chygwyn.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 05:01:03PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > Quoting Steven Whitehouse <steve@chygwyn.com>:
> > > > ssize_t tcp_sendpage(struct socket *sock, struct page *page, int offset,
> > > >                      size_t size, int flags)
> > > > {
> > > >         ssize_t res;
> > > >         struct sock *sk = sock->sk;
> > > > 
> > > >         if (!(sk->sk_route_caps & NETIF_F_SG) ||
> > > >             !(sk->sk_route_caps & NETIF_F_ALL_CSUM))
> > > >                 return sock_no_sendpage(sock, page, offset, size, flags);
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So, it seems that if I set NETIF_F_SG but clear NETIF_F_ALL_CSUM,
> > > > data will be copied over rather than sent directly.
> > > > So why does dev.c have to force set NETIF_F_SG to off then?
> > > >
> > > I agree with that analysis,
> > 
> > So, would you Ack something like the following then?
> >
> 
> In so far as I'm able to ack it, then yes, but with the following
> caveats: that you also need to look at the tcp code's checks for
> NETIF_F_SG (aside from the interface to tcp_sendpage which I think
> we've agreed is ok) and ensure that this patch will not change their
> behaviour, and here I'm thinking of the test in net/ipv4/tcp.c:select_size()
> in particular - there may be others but thats the only one I can think
> of off the top of my head. I think this is what davem was getting at
> with his comment about copy & sum for smaller packets.
> 
> Also all subject to approval by davem and shemminger of course :-)
> 
> My general feeling is that devices should advertise the features that
> they actually have and that the protocols should make the decision
> as to which ones to use or not depending on the combinations available
> (which I think is pretty much your argument).
> 
> Steve.
> 

You might want to try ignoring the check in dev.c and testing
to see if there is a performance gain.  It wouldn't be hard to test
a modified version and validate the performance change.

You could even do what I suggested and use skb_checksum_help()
to do inplace checksumming, as a performance test.


-- 
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-11 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-09 17:47 Dropping NETIF_F_SG since no checksum feature Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-09 16:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-10 14:43   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-10 17:43     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-11  0:13       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11  0:15         ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-11  0:26           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11  3:33             ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-11  3:36               ` David Miller
2006-10-11  3:42                 ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-11  3:45                   ` David Miller
2006-10-11  3:49                     ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-11  3:50                       ` David Miller
2006-10-11  2:15         ` David Miller
2006-10-11  9:05           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11  9:09             ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-10-11 15:01               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 20:11                 ` Steven Whitehouse
2006-10-11 20:52                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 20:57                   ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-10-11 21:23                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 21:29                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-11 21:42                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 21:41                       ` David Miller
2006-10-12 19:12                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-13  4:22                           ` David Miller
2006-10-13  6:17                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 20:52                 ` David Miller
2006-10-11 21:11                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11  9:20             ` David Miller
2006-10-11  9:46               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-11 18:21                 ` [openib-general] " Michael Krause
2006-10-11 13:11               ` [RFC] Question about potential problem in net/ipv4/route.c Eric Dumazet
2006-10-12  5:05                 ` David Miller
2006-10-12  5:31                   ` Patrick McHardy
2006-10-12  5:54                     ` David Miller
2006-10-12  5:48                   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-12  6:02                     ` David Miller
2006-10-12  6:10                       ` Patrick McHardy
2006-10-12  6:25                         ` David Miller
2006-10-12  6:35                       ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-12  7:48                         ` David Miller
2006-10-16  9:00                 ` [PATCH] NET : Suspicious locking in reqsk_queue_hash_req() Eric Dumazet
2006-10-16  9:07                   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-16 16:16                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2006-10-16 16:56                       ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-16 17:39                         ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-16 20:41                   ` David Miller

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