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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network virtualization/isolation
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:01:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061023130113.1430b95d@freekitty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <453F8800.9070603@fr.ibm.com>

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:51:28 +0200
Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com> wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
> 
> currently the work to make the container enablement into the kernel is 
> doing good progress. The ipc, pid, utsname and filesystem system 
> ressources are isolated/virtualized relying on the namespaces concept.
> 
> But, there is missing the network virtualization/isolation. Two 
> approaches are proposed: doing the isolation at the layer 2 and at the 
> layer 3.
> 
> The first one instanciate a network device by namespace and add a peer 
> network device into the "root namespace", all the routing ressources are 
>    relative to the namespace. This work is done by Andrey Savochkin from 
> the openvz project.
> 
> The second relies on the routes and associates the network namespace 
> pointer with each route. When the traffic is incoming, the packet 
> follows an input route and retrieve the associated network namespace. 
> When the traffic is outgoing, the packet, identified from the network 
> namespace is coming from, follows only the routes matching the same 
> network namespace. This work is made by me.
> 
> IMHO, we need the two approach, the layer-2 to be able to bring *very* 
> strong isolation for system container with a performance cost and a 
> layer-3 to be able to have good isolation for lightweight container or 
> application container when performances are more important.
> 
> Do you have some suggestions ? What is your point of view on that ?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
>    -- Daniel

Any solution should allow both and it should build on the existing netfilter infrastructure.


-- 
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-25 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-25 15:51 Network virtualization/isolation Daniel Lezcano
2006-10-23 20:01 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-10-26  9:44   ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-10-26 15:56     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-26 22:16       ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-10-27  7:34       ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-10-27  9:10         ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-01 14:35           ` jamal
2006-11-01 16:13             ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-14 15:17             ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-14 18:12               ` James Morris
2006-11-15  9:56                 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-22 12:00               ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-25  9:09               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-28 14:15                 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-28 16:51                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-28 17:37                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-28 20:26                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-28 21:50                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-29  5:54                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-29 20:21                         ` Brian Haley
2006-11-29 22:10                           ` [Devel] " Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-30 16:15                             ` Vlad Yasevich
2006-11-30 16:38                               ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-30 17:24                                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-03 12:26                             ` jamal
2006-12-03 14:13                               ` jamal
2006-12-03 16:00                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 15:19                                   ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-04 15:45                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 16:43                                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-04 16:58                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 17:02                                       ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-04 17:19                                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-04 17:41                                         ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-12-04 12:15                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 13:44                                   ` jamal
2006-12-04 15:35                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 16:00                                       ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-04 16:52                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-06 11:54                                           ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-12-06 18:30                                             ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-08 19:57                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-09  3:50                                                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-09  6:13                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-09  6:35                                                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-09 21:18                                                       ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-09 22:34                                                       ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-12-10  2:21                                                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-09  8:07                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-09 11:27                                                   ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-12-09 19:04                                                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-03 16:37                               ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-03 16:58                                 ` jamal
2006-12-04 10:18                               ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-12-04 13:22                                 ` jamal
2006-12-02 11:29                         ` Kari Hurtta
2006-12-02 11:49                           ` Kari Hurtta
2006-11-29  5:58                       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-25  8:21             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-26 18:34               ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-26 19:41                 ` Ben Greear
2006-11-26 20:52                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-25  8:27       ` Eric W. Biederman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-25 16:35 Leonid Grossman
2006-11-25 19:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-25 22:17 Leonid Grossman
2006-11-25 23:16 ` Eric W. Biederman

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