From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network virtualization/isolation
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:01:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061023130113.1430b95d@freekitty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <453F8800.9070603@fr.ibm.com>
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:51:28 +0200
Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com> wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> currently the work to make the container enablement into the kernel is
> doing good progress. The ipc, pid, utsname and filesystem system
> ressources are isolated/virtualized relying on the namespaces concept.
>
> But, there is missing the network virtualization/isolation. Two
> approaches are proposed: doing the isolation at the layer 2 and at the
> layer 3.
>
> The first one instanciate a network device by namespace and add a peer
> network device into the "root namespace", all the routing ressources are
> relative to the namespace. This work is done by Andrey Savochkin from
> the openvz project.
>
> The second relies on the routes and associates the network namespace
> pointer with each route. When the traffic is incoming, the packet
> follows an input route and retrieve the associated network namespace.
> When the traffic is outgoing, the packet, identified from the network
> namespace is coming from, follows only the routes matching the same
> network namespace. This work is made by me.
>
> IMHO, we need the two approach, the layer-2 to be able to bring *very*
> strong isolation for system container with a performance cost and a
> layer-3 to be able to have good isolation for lightweight container or
> application container when performances are more important.
>
> Do you have some suggestions ? What is your point of view on that ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -- Daniel
Any solution should allow both and it should build on the existing netfilter infrastructure.
--
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-25 16:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-25 15:51 Network virtualization/isolation Daniel Lezcano
2006-10-23 20:01 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-10-26 9:44 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-10-26 15:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-26 22:16 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-10-27 7:34 ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-10-27 9:10 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-01 14:35 ` jamal
2006-11-01 16:13 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-14 15:17 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-14 18:12 ` James Morris
2006-11-15 9:56 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-22 12:00 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-25 9:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-28 14:15 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-28 16:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-28 17:37 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-28 20:26 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-28 21:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-29 5:54 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-29 20:21 ` Brian Haley
2006-11-29 22:10 ` [Devel] " Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-30 16:15 ` Vlad Yasevich
2006-11-30 16:38 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-11-30 17:24 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-03 12:26 ` jamal
2006-12-03 14:13 ` jamal
2006-12-03 16:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 15:19 ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-04 15:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 16:43 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-04 16:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 17:02 ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-04 17:19 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-04 17:41 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-12-04 12:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 13:44 ` jamal
2006-12-04 15:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-04 16:00 ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-04 16:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-06 11:54 ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-12-06 18:30 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-08 19:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-09 3:50 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-09 6:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-09 6:35 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-09 21:18 ` Dmitry Mishin
2006-12-09 22:34 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-12-10 2:21 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-09 8:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-12-09 11:27 ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-12-09 19:04 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-03 16:37 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-12-03 16:58 ` jamal
2006-12-04 10:18 ` Daniel Lezcano
2006-12-04 13:22 ` jamal
2006-12-02 11:29 ` Kari Hurtta
2006-12-02 11:49 ` Kari Hurtta
2006-11-29 5:58 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-25 8:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-26 18:34 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-11-26 19:41 ` Ben Greear
2006-11-26 20:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-25 8:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-25 16:35 Leonid Grossman
2006-11-25 19:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-11-25 22:17 Leonid Grossman
2006-11-25 23:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
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