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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: wenji@fnal.gov, akpm@osdl.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/4] - Potential performance bottleneck for Linxu TCP
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:47:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061130064758.GD2003@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061129.223055.05159325.davem@davemloft.net>


* David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:

> > yeah, i like this one. If the problem is "too long locked section", 
> > then the most natural solution is to "break up the lock", not to 
> > "boost the priority of the lock-holding task" (which is what the 
> > proposed patch does).
> 
> Ingo you're mis-read the problem :-)

yeah, the problem isnt too long locked section but "too much time spent 
holding a lock" and hence opening up ourselves to possible negative 
side-effects of the scheduler's fairness algorithm when it forces a 
preemption of that process context with that lock held (and forcing all 
subsequent packets to be backlogged).

but please read my last mail - i think i'm slowly starting to wake up 
;-) I dont think there is any real problem: a tweak to the scheduler 
that in essence gives TCP-using tasks a preference changes the balance 
of workloads. Such an explicit tweak is possible already.

furthermore, the tweak allows the shifting of processing from a 
prioritized process context into a highest-priority softirq context. 
(it's not proven that there is any significant /net win/ of performance: 
all that was proven is that if we shift TCP processing from process 
context into softirq context then TCP throughput of that otherwise 
penalized process context increases.)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-30  6:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-30  1:56 [patch 1/4] - Potential performance bottleneck for Linxu TCP Wenji Wu
2006-11-30  2:19 ` David Miller
2006-11-30  6:17   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30  6:30     ` David Miller
2006-11-30  6:47       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-11-30  7:12         ` David Miller
2006-11-30  7:35           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30  9:52             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 10:07               ` Nick Piggin
2006-11-30 10:22                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 10:32                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 17:04                     ` Wenji Wu
2006-11-30 20:20                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 20:58                         ` Wenji Wu
2006-11-30 20:22                     ` David Miller
2006-11-30 20:30                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 20:38                         ` David Miller
2006-11-30 20:49                           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 20:54                             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 20:55                             ` David Miller
2006-11-30 20:14                   ` David Miller
2006-11-30 20:42                     ` Wenji Wu
2006-12-01  9:53                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-01 23:18                       ` David Miller
2006-11-30  6:56       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 16:08   ` Wenji Wu
2006-11-30 20:06     ` David Miller
2006-11-30  9:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-11-30 16:51   ` Lee Revell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-30  2:02 Wenji Wu
2006-11-30  6:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-29 23:27 [Changelog] " Wenji Wu
2006-11-29 23:28 ` [patch 1/4] " Wenji Wu
2006-11-30  0:53   ` David Miller
2006-11-30  1:08     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-30  1:13       ` David Miller
2006-11-30  6:04       ` Mike Galbraith

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