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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: drow@false.org, stefan@loplof.de, dwmw2@infradead.org,
	joseph@codesourcery.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [NETLINK]: Schedule removal of old macros exported to userspace
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 00:28:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061209232805.GP8693@postel.suug.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061209.134552.71105673.davem@davemloft.net>

* David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> 2006-12-09 13:45
> You can't deprecate stuff visible to userspace, sorry Thomas,
> we just can't do it.

It has been done before but I don't want to drag this on
any further. I did what I found to be right and obviously
I've hit a wall.

> Once idea I have is that you could tag these things as
> "deprecated" by making them use inline functions or similar
> and adding the deprecated GCC attribute to them.  I'd be
> very happy to include a patch like that.
> 
> This way userland gets the warning and people building it (and
> in particular the developer) will see that they have something
> to fix up.

I'm not going to spend any time on patching broken interfaces. I've
provided an alternative for those able and willing to switch, that's
as far as I'll go.

I had a short glance at dhcpclient's netlink code and found half
a dozen bugs within five minutes all caused by cut and pasting
sniplets from other netlink code. It is my opinion that people
will continue to drag along bugs this way unless the interface is
removed. I never believed in providing backward compatibility to
broken code.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-09 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-06 17:20 Kernel header changes break glibc build Joseph S. Myers
2006-12-03 12:25 ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-04  9:13   ` Thomas Graf
2006-12-06 13:01     ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-06 13:43       ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-12-06 13:51         ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-06 13:57           ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-12-06 14:01             ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-06 13:59         ` Thomas Graf
2006-12-06 14:07           ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-06 14:18             ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-12-06 14:31               ` Thomas Graf
2006-12-06 17:13                 ` Al Viro
2006-12-06 20:26                   ` Thomas Graf
2006-12-06 20:34                     ` Al Viro
2006-12-06 21:35                       ` Thomas Graf
2006-12-06 14:23             ` Thomas Graf
2006-12-07 11:29               ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-06 19:32     ` Stefan Rompf
2006-12-06 20:22       ` Thomas Graf
2006-12-07  0:56       ` David Miller
2006-12-07 10:47         ` Thomas Graf
2006-12-07 10:51           ` David Miller
2006-12-07 10:55             ` [NETLINK]: Restore API compatibility of address and neighbour bits Thomas Graf
2006-12-07 11:28               ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-08  7:52                 ` David Miller
2006-12-08  7:50               ` David Miller
2006-12-08 14:25               ` Stefan Rompf
2006-12-08 17:33                 ` Jim Gifford
2006-12-08 17:54                   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-12-08 21:33                 ` David Miller
2006-12-08 21:36                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-12-08 21:47                     ` David Miller
2006-12-08 21:52                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-12-09  0:43                         ` David Miller
2006-12-09  1:14                           ` David Miller
2006-12-09 10:39                             ` [NETLINK]: Schedule removal of old macros exported to userspace Thomas Graf
2006-12-09 11:49                               ` Stefan Rompf
2006-12-09 12:55                                 ` Thomas Graf
2006-12-09 14:58                                   ` Stefan Rompf
2006-12-09 21:50                                     ` David Miller
2006-12-09 22:02                                     ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-12 11:23                                     ` David Woodhouse
2006-12-09 21:49                                   ` David Miller
2006-12-09 21:45                               ` David Miller
2006-12-09 23:28                                 ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2006-12-10 10:11                                   ` Stefan Rompf
2006-12-10 12:15                                     ` Thomas Graf
2006-12-12  6:56                                       ` dhcpclient netlink bugs (was Re: [NETLINK]: Schedule removal of old macros exported to userspace) Stefan Rompf
2006-12-15  0:46                                         ` Herbert Xu
2006-12-10  1:42                                 ` [NETLINK]: Schedule removal of old macros exported to userspace Jeff Bailey
2006-12-10  1:52                                   ` Al Viro
2006-12-09  9:56                   ` [NETLINK]: Restore API compatibility of address and neighbour bits Stefan Rompf

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