From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Al Viro Subject: Re: [NETLINK]: Schedule removal of old macros exported to userspace Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 01:52:27 +0000 Message-ID: <20061210015227.GZ4587@ftp.linux.org.uk> References: <20061208.164345.71119524.davem@davemloft.net> <20061208.171455.11932070.davem@davemloft.net> <20061209103953.GN8693@postel.suug.ch> <20061209.134552.71105673.davem@davemloft.net> <5b2e36650612091742u70188d90l25e91c33468a0c0a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: David Miller , tgraf@suug.ch, drow@false.org, stefan@loplof.de, dwmw2@infradead.org, joseph@codesourcery.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, akpm@osdl.org Return-path: Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:46505 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759218AbWLJBwy (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 Dec 2006 20:52:54 -0500 To: Jeff Bailey Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5b2e36650612091742u70188d90l25e91c33468a0c0a@mail.gmail.com> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org On Sat, Dec 09, 2006 at 08:42:45PM -0500, Jeff Bailey wrote: > On 09/12/06, David Miller wrote: > >You can't deprecate stuff visible to userspace, sorry Thomas, > >we just can't do it. > > > >You can migrate people to "better" interfaces, but you can't > >pull the rug out from anyone once things like this are visible > >to userspace. It's permanently there, and we have to live with > >that. > > Is there some way of marking it so that newer architectures that come > on don't wind up with that export? That way at least as newer > machines and arches come out, they don't have to carry the oldest > baggage. As the oldest architectures eventually get dropped, cruft > can be removed. Which architectures ever got dropped?