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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:51:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061219155133.20132824@freekitty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4589C945.3050105@hp.com>

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:37:41 -0800
Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> wrote:

> > There are two different problems:
> > 
> > 1) Behavior seems to be different depending on device driver
> >    author. We should document the expected semantics better.
> > 
> >    IMHO:
> > 	When device is down, it should:
> > 	 a) use as few resources as possible:
> > 	       - not grab memory for buffers
> > 	       - not assign IRQ unless it could get one
> > 	       - turn off all power consumption possible
> > 	 b) allow setting parameters like speed/duplex/autonegotiation,
> >             ring buffers, ... with ethtool, and remember the state
> > 	 c) not accept data coming in, and drop packets queued
> 
> What implications does c have for something like tcpdump?
> 
> rick jones

None, you can bring up the device without actually assigning an address to it.

-- 
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-20 23:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]           ` <1166601025.3365.1345.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2006-12-20 12:53             ` Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 13:38               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 14:31                 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 15:51                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 22:49                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-20 23:37                       ` Rick Jones
2006-12-19 23:51                         ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-12-21  0:11                       ` Francois Romieu
2006-12-20  0:26                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21 11:18                           ` Francois Romieu
2006-12-21  1:12                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  2:05                         ` Michael Wu
2006-12-21  2:18                           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  2:38                             ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  2:45                               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:08                                 ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  3:25                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:37                                     ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:29                                   ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:14                             ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 13:14                               ` jamal
2006-12-21  2:29                         ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  2:10                     ` Jesse Brandeburg
2006-12-21  8:54                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-22  1:03                   ` Herbert Xu
2006-12-23  8:54                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-20 15:27                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-20 15:34                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 16:40                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-20 17:21                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 20:40                         ` Benny Amorsen
2006-12-20 21:49                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 21:15                     ` Stefan Rompf
2006-12-20 14:00               ` Jiri Benc
2006-12-20 18:12                 ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  1:15                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  1:57                     ` Michael Wu
2006-12-21  2:20                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:02                         ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:06                     ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:14                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:32                         ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 13:19                           ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2006-12-21 17:16                             ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 18:27                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22  1:25                         ` Matt Domsch
2006-12-20 16:04               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2006-12-21  5:25 David Brownell
2006-12-21  7:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21  8:11   ` David Brownell

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