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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
Cc: Jiri Benc <jbenc@suse.cz>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:14:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061221031418.GA1277@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1166670411.23168.13.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 10:06:51PM -0500, Dan Williams wrote:

> a) tied to the wireless hardware, switch kills hardware directly
> b) tied to wireless hardware, but driver handles the kill request
> c) just another key, a separate key driver handles the event and asks
> the wireless driver to kill the card
> 
> It's also complicated because some switches are supposed to rfkill both
> an 802.11 module _and_ a bluetooth module at the same time, or I guess
> some laptops may even have one rfkill switch for each wireless device.
> Furthermore, some people want to 'softkill' the hardware via software
> without pushing the key, which is a subset of (b) or (c) above.

If we define interface down as meaning that the device is powered down 
and the radio switched off, then (b) and (c) would presumably just need 
to ensure that the interface is downed. (a) is a slightly more special 
case - if the switch disables the radio, I guess we then want the driver 
to down the interface as well.

In the (a) case, drivers should presumably refuse to bring the interface 
up if the radio is disabled?
-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-21  3:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <20061220042648.GA19814@srcf.ucam.org>
     [not found]     ` <200612192114.49920.david-b@pacbell.net>
     [not found]       ` <20061220053417.GA29877@suse.de>
     [not found]         ` <20061220055209.GA20483@srcf.ucam.org>
     [not found]           ` <1166601025.3365.1345.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2006-12-20 12:53             ` Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 13:38               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 14:31                 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-20 15:51                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 22:49                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-20 23:37                       ` Rick Jones
2006-12-19 23:51                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21  0:11                       ` Francois Romieu
2006-12-20  0:26                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21 11:18                           ` Francois Romieu
2006-12-21  1:12                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  2:05                         ` Michael Wu
2006-12-21  2:18                           ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  2:38                             ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  2:45                               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:08                                 ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  3:25                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:37                                     ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:29                                   ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:14                             ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 13:14                               ` jamal
2006-12-21  2:29                         ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-21  2:10                     ` Jesse Brandeburg
2006-12-21  8:54                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-22  1:03                   ` Herbert Xu
2006-12-23  8:54                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-20 15:27                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-20 15:34                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 16:40                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-20 17:21                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 20:40                         ` Benny Amorsen
2006-12-20 21:49                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-20 21:15                     ` Stefan Rompf
2006-12-20 14:00               ` Jiri Benc
2006-12-20 18:12                 ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  1:15                   ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  1:57                     ` Michael Wu
2006-12-21  2:20                       ` Matthew Garrett
2006-12-21  3:02                         ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:06                     ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21  3:14                       ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2006-12-21  3:32                         ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 13:19                           ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2006-12-21 17:16                             ` Dan Williams
2006-12-21 18:27                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-12-22  1:25                         ` Matt Domsch
2006-12-20 16:04               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2006-12-21  5:25 David Brownell
2006-12-21  7:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-12-21  8:11   ` David Brownell

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