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From: Gerrit Renker <gerrit@erg.abdn.ac.uk>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: removing gotos considered harmful...
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:02:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200701041002.59906@strip-the-willow> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070103.172548.17866275.davem@davemloft.net>

|  > previous code had the form (this is copied from 2.6.17-mm1 original):
|  > 
|  > 			size = 0;
|  > 			sk_for_each(sk2, node, list)
|  > 				if (++size >= best_size_so_far)
|  > 					goto next;
|  > 			best_size_so_far = size;
|  > 			best = result;
|  > 		next:;
|  > 
|  > |  and this got converted into:
|  > |  
|  > |  			sk_for_each(sk2, node, head)
|  > |  				if (++size < best_size_so_far) {
|  > |  					best_size_so_far = size;
|  > |  					best = result;
|  > |  				}
|  > |  
|  > |  Which does something very very different from the original.
|  >
|  > ===> Sorry, I fail to see where the two differ. They have the same postcondition
|  >      upon loop exit; sk2, node, size, and head are not referenced anywhere in the 
|  >      code that follows.
|  >      
|  
|  Please go buy a pair of glasses then :-)
|  
|  They are not at all the same.  Consider in what circumstances the two
|  variables "best_size_so_far" and "best" get updated in the two cases,
|  it's massively different.
|  
|  You _ALWAYS_ update those two variables in your version if the loop
|  executes at least once, that's wrong and that's not what the original
|  code was trying to do.
|  
|  It ONLY wants to update those two variables when we walk
|  a complete hash chain which is smaller than "best_size_so_far".
|  
|  The fact that you continue to try and defend your version shows
|  that you really had no idea what you were doing when you made this
|  change.
|  
|  You added an exploitable hole to our UDP protocol implementation
|  because you didn't understand this snippet of code and wanted to
|  'clean up the logic'.
|  
|  
You are right, I made a stupid error by considering a single construct out of context.

I only understood fully what you were saying above after doing a lengthy paper-and-pencil
analysis of the entire algorithm: the exploit is in the assignment of `best', I was arguing
about `best_size_so_far', which is of no consequence here. 

I apologise for the regression that this caused - in future submissions I make sure that I
do the paper and pencil analysis before. Thanks for patience with the explanation. 

      reply	other threads:[~2007-01-04 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-22 20:04 removing gotos considered harmful David Miller
2006-12-22 21:11 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-01-03  8:08 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-01-04  0:35   ` Herbert Xu
2007-01-04  1:25   ` David Miller
2007-01-04 10:02     ` Gerrit Renker [this message]

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