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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, paulmck@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [patch 11/11] netfilter warning fix
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:07:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070207080722.GC2434@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45C974FD.5070404@trash.net>


* Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> wrote:

> > this means that this particular use could be fixed by converting the 
> > preempt_disable()/enable() pair in nf_ct_l4proto_find_get() to 
> > rcu_read_lock()/unlock(), correct?
> 
> That is another bug (all uses of preempt_disable in netfilter 
> actually), but calling __nf_ct_l[34]proto_find without rcu_read_lock 
> is broken as well.
> 
> > Furthermore, every user of synchronize_net() [and synchronize_rcu() 
> > in general] needs to be reviewed.
> 
> I'll take care of netfilter.

great! Netfilter is one of the main users of synchronize_net() (about 
90% of the synchronize_net() callsites are in netfilter), and one of the 
main (well, in fact pretty much only) users of preempt_disable().

Dave, Patrick, can we lift the nack on PREEMPT_RCU, as far as networking 
goes? We really need some progress regarding it, and i think Paul is way 
too modest about pushing it. His patchset been in beta testing for like 
2 years meanwhile. PREEMPT_RCU has already found a nice set of 
bugs/uncleanlinesses elsewhere too, so even if you never actually enable 
PREEMPT_RCU (it's off by default), it's a nice generalization of the RCU 
framework that also tightens up its semantics. I think we need that, 
before existing code learns to depend on non-generic details of 
'classic' RCU too much. [my other interest in it, as you might have 
guessed, is that PREEMPT_RT depends on PREEMPT_RCU architecturally, but 
that shouldnt worry you - i think the upstream arguments alone are 
strong enough.]

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-07  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-06  0:31 [patch 11/11] netfilter warning fix akpm
2007-02-06  2:10 ` David Miller
2007-02-06  2:18   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-06  2:44     ` David Miller
2007-02-06  2:53       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-06 12:34         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 19:43           ` David Miller
2007-02-06 21:02             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06 21:23               ` David Miller
2007-02-06 21:58                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-07  6:43                   ` Patrick McHardy
2007-02-07  8:07                     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-02-07  8:13                       ` David Miller
2007-02-07  8:16                         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-02-07  8:18                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-06  9:21       ` Martin Josefsson

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