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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: shemminger@linux-foundation.org
Cc: ian.mcdonald@jandi.co.nz, baruch@ev-en.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] tcp: remove experimental variants from default list
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:47:34 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070212.124734.07455258.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070212123713.1e8efb0d@freekitty>

From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:37:13 -0800

> My patches weren't reactionary. Going to pure old Reno is reactionary.
> It was more looking at the state of the code on the flight back
> and cleaning house. Others were/are reactionary. 

Ok.

The only patch I have a real problem with is the DEFAULT_*
removals, the choices are frankly arbitrary.

Vegas is buggy, that's nice, why don't we simply fix the
bugs in our implementation?

Westwood is very conservative, frankly, and I therefore see
no reason it cannot be offered as a default either.

HTCP doesn't do anything earth shattering either.

I think the whole suite of algorithms in that list are
reasonable.

And even re-reading your patch, you're messing with the
DEFAULT_* setting for the case where the user selected
TCP_CONG_ADVANCED.

I think TCP_CONG_ADVANCED implies an intention by the user,
and if he wants to choose one of those listed as a default
why should we stop them?

The distributions take the default we recommend, and that's
all that matters for wide deployment.

> I push the problem back in their court: "Why do you not have a process
> that causes consensus?" IETF has done nothing to create any incentive
> for long term cooperation.

Yep, this is a good point.

> Do I need to dig out the "Why Reno sucks" graphs?

Hehe :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-12 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-12 16:03 [patch 0/3] TCP trivial patches Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-12 16:03 ` [patch 1/3] tcp: cleanup of htcp Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-12 21:14   ` David Miller
2007-02-12 21:28     ` [patch 1/3] tcp: cleanup of htcp (resend) Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-12 21:34       ` David Miller
2007-02-12 16:03 ` [patch 2/3] tcp: use read mostly for CUBIC parameters Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-12 21:15   ` David Miller
2007-02-12 16:03 ` [patch 3/3] tcp: remove experimental variants from default list Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-12 19:11   ` Baruch Even
2007-02-12 20:13     ` Ian McDonald
2007-02-12 20:26       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-12 20:34         ` David Miller
2007-02-12 20:32       ` David Miller
2007-02-12 20:37         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-12 20:47           ` David Miller [this message]
2007-02-12 21:05         ` Ian McDonald
2007-02-12 20:20     ` David Miller
2007-02-12 22:12       ` Baruch Even
2007-02-12 22:53         ` David Miller
2007-02-13  9:56           ` Baruch Even
2007-02-13 16:49             ` SANGTAE HA
2007-02-13 17:42               ` Baruch Even
2007-02-13 19:54                 ` John Heffner
2007-02-13 20:06               ` David Miller
2007-02-13 20:23                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-13 17:41             ` Injong Rhee
2007-02-13 18:23               ` Baruch Even
2007-02-13 19:56             ` David Miller
2007-02-13 20:06               ` Baruch Even

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