From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: akepner@sgi.com, linux@horizon.com, davem@davemloft.net,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, bcrl@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Extensible hashing and RCU
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:56:09 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070219135608.GA10268@2ka.mipt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200702191438.14010.dada1@cosmosbay.com>
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 02:38:13PM +0100, Eric Dumazet (dada1@cosmosbay.com) wrote:
> On Monday 19 February 2007 12:41, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
>
> > > 1 microsecond ? Are you kidding ? We want no more than 50 ns.
> >
> > Theory again.
>
>
> Theory is nice, but I personally prefer oprofile :)
> I base my comments on real facts.
> We *want* 50 ns tcp lookups (2 cache line misses, one with reader intent, one
> for exclusive access intent)
I said that your words are theory in previous mails :)
Current code works 10 times worse than you expect.
> > Existing table does not scale that good - I created (1<<20)/2 (to cover
> > only established part) entries table and filled it with 1 million of random
> > entries -search time is about half of microsecod.
>
> I use exactly 1^20 slots, not 1^19 (see commit
> dbca9b2750e3b1ee6f56a616160ccfc12e8b161f , where I changed layout of ehash
> table so that two chains (established/timewait) are on the same cache line.
> every cache miss *counts*)
Forget about cache misses and cache lines - we have a hash table, only
part of which is used (part for time-wait sockets, part for established
ones).
Anyway, even with 2^20 (i.e. when the whole table is only used for
established sockets) search time is about 360-370 nsec on 3.7 GHz Core
Duo (only one CPU is used) with 2 GB of ram.
> http://www.mail-archive.com/netdev@vger.kernel.org/msg31096.html
>
> (Of course, you may have to change MAX_ORDER to 14 or else the hash table hits
> the MAX_ORDER limit)
>
> Search time under 100 ns, for real trafic (kind of random... but not quite)
> Most of this time is taken by the rwlock, so expect 50 ns once RCU is finally
> in...
My experiment shows almost 400 nsecs without _any_ locks - they are
removed completely - it is pure hash selection/list traverse time.
> In your tests, please make sure a User process is actually doing real work on
> each CPU, ie evicting cpu caches every ms...
>
> The rule is : On a normal machine, cpu caches contain UserMode data, not
> kernel data. (as a typical machine spends 15% of its cpu time in kernel land,
> and 85% in User land). You can assume kernel text is in cache, but even this
> assumption may be wrong.
In my tests _only_ hash tables are in memory (well with some bits of
other stuff) - I use exactly the same approach for both trie and hash
table tests - table/trie is allocated, filled and lookup of random
values is performed in a loop. It is done in userspace - I just moved
list.h inet_hashtable.h and other needed files into separate project and
compiled them (with removed locks, atomic operations and other pure
kernel stuff). So actual time even more for hash table - at least it
requires locks while trie implementation works with RCU.
--
Evgeniy Polyakov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-19 14:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-04 7:41 Extensible hashing and RCU linux
2007-02-05 18:02 ` akepner
2007-02-17 13:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-18 18:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-18 19:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-18 20:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-18 21:23 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-18 22:04 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-19 12:04 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-19 19:18 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-19 11:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-19 13:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-19 13:56 ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2007-02-19 14:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-19 14:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-19 15:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-19 18:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-19 18:26 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-19 18:38 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-20 9:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 9:57 ` David Miller
2007-02-20 10:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 10:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 10:12 ` David Miller
2007-02-20 10:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 11:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 11:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 11:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 11:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 10:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 15:07 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-20 15:11 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 15:49 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-20 15:59 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 16:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 16:20 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 16:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 16:59 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 17:05 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 17:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 18:00 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 18:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 19:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 19:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 19:36 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 19:44 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-20 17:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 17:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 18:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 19:13 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-20 19:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 20:03 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-20 20:09 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-21 8:56 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-21 9:34 ` David Miller
2007-02-21 9:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-21 10:03 ` David Miller
2007-02-21 8:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-21 9:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-21 9:27 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-21 9:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-21 9:57 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-21 21:15 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-22 9:06 ` David Miller
2007-02-22 11:00 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-22 11:07 ` David Miller
2007-02-22 19:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-02-20 16:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-22 23:49 ` linux
2007-02-23 2:31 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-20 10:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 11:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 11:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-20 11:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-20 11:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-21 12:41 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-21 13:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-21 13:37 ` David Miller
2007-02-21 23:13 ` Robert Olsson
2007-02-22 6:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-22 11:41 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-22 11:44 ` David Miller
2007-02-20 12:11 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-19 22:10 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-19 12:02 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-19 12:35 ` Robert Olsson
2007-02-19 14:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-02 8:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-02 9:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-02 10:28 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-02 20:45 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-03 10:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-04 10:02 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-04 20:36 ` David Miller
2007-03-05 7:12 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-05 10:02 ` Robert Olsson
2007-03-05 10:00 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-13 9:32 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-13 10:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-13 10:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-05 18:41 ` [RFC/TOY]Extensible " akepner
2007-02-06 19:09 ` linux
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