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From: Ivo van Doorn <ivdoorn@gmail.com>
To: "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Stephen Hemminger" <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"John Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	"Jiri Benc" <jbenc@suse.cz>,
	"Lennart Poettering" <lennart@poettering.net>,
	"Johannes Berg" <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	"Larry Finger" <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] rfkill - Add support for input key to control wireless radio
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 14:49:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703311449.40022.IvDoorn@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d120d5000703301137m7ba7e3e4xb18aad1d1fc7c052@mail.gmail.com>

> > Well in drivers/net are the network drivers but not the irda and bluetooth drivers,
> > those are located in different folders in drivers/ so I think misc would be the most
> > suitable location.
> 
> We could also consider the ./net itself. rfkill is not a driver, it is
> a facility.

True, in that case ./net would be good.

> > > Does this make sense?
> >
> > Yes, but what if the user loads both modules or has them both compiled in?
> > Shouldn't there be some protection against that, since both handlers should not
> > be active at the same time.
> 
> Why not? evdev is just a delivery transport for input events to
> userspace. Even if user wants the kernel to control state of RF
> switches (which I expect most users woudl want) there still could be
> applications interested in knowing that used turned off wireless. And
> if userspace really wishes to control switch all by itself it can
> "claim" it.

Right, I forgot about that user_claim thingy. ;)

> I guess what you are missing is that input event generated by a device
> is pushed through every handler bound to the device so there is no way
> for a "wrong" handler to "steals" an event from "right" handler. They
> all work simultaneously.
> 
> > > > personally I would prefer enforcing drivers to call
> > > > allocate()
> > > > register()
> > > > unregister()
> > > > free()
> > > >
> > > > Especially with unregister() doing the same steps as free() (put_device)
> > > > might be somwhat confusing. But might be just me. ;)
> > > >
> > >
> > > I know but for refcounted objects you can't really tell when they will
> > > actually be freed. It depends when their last user drops off.
> >
> > Then perhaps rfkill_register could call put_device() when it fails, and free()
> > can be removed entirely. That way it would we prevent some driver
> > to call free() anyway.
> >
> 
> That would make error handling in ->probe() methods a bit unwieldy I
> think - if you are using the standard "goto err_xxx; goto err_yyy;"
> technique then you have to conditionally call rfkill_free(). Hovewer
> if register simply fails and does not free anything and you call
> rfkill_register() last (which you need to do because driver has to be
> almost fully functional to be able to serve toggle_radio calls) you
> can always call rfkill_free() if something fails.

Ok.

Well that would mean rfkill would be ready to applied to one of the kernel trees right? :)
The first user of rfkill would be rt2x00, which is in wireless-dev as well as -mm.
The second user could be the driver from Lennart, but I haven't heard from him quite a while
(although he is on the CC list) so I am not sure if his MSI driver can be fixed to use rfkill. His MSI
driver is already in the linus' tree.
A third user could be bcm43xx but I don't know how far they are with hardware key detection and
status reading (to make it work with rfkill), perhaps Larry could give more information about that.

Ivo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-31 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-03 18:36 [RFC] rfkill - Add support for input key to control wireless radio Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-03 19:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-03 22:03   ` Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-03 19:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-03 22:05   ` Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-03 22:28   ` Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-05  0:18     ` Randy Dunlap
2006-12-05 21:20       ` Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-03 19:44 ` Dan Williams
2006-12-03 22:16   ` Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-04  8:53   ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-12-04 22:15 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-12-04 23:27   ` Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-06 14:37     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-12-06 15:18       ` Dan Williams
2006-12-06 15:24         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-12-06 19:31       ` Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-06 20:18         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-12-06 21:41           ` Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-06 22:04             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-12-07 21:53               ` Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-12  5:12                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-12-12  7:47                   ` Ivo Van Doorn
2006-12-17 17:43                   ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-01-30 16:33                     ` Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-07 13:22             ` Dan Williams
2006-12-07 21:58               ` Ivo van Doorn
2006-12-06 22:05           ` Jiri Benc
2006-12-06 22:10             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-12-05 10:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-12-05 21:21   ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-01-31  3:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-31 10:39   ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-01-31 11:20   ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-03-30  5:27     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-30  5:29       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-30 14:59       ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-03-30 15:28         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-30 17:13           ` Ivo van Doorn
2007-03-30 18:37             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-31 12:49               ` Ivo van Doorn [this message]
2007-04-02  4:38                 ` Dmitry Torokhov

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