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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
To: Baruch Even <baruch@ev-en.org>
Cc: davef1624@aol.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: TCP congestion control for fast, short-distance networks ?
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:39:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070404103944.1b15de16@freekitty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070404161121.GB32019@galon.ev-en.org>

On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:11:21 +0300
Baruch Even <baruch@ev-en.org> wrote:

> * davef1624@aol.com <davef1624@aol.com> [070404 19:03]:
> > Thanks - so you are suggesting we enable 802.3 flow-control / pause-frames?
> > (it's currently disabled)
> 
> I do, but do test it before you bet on it. I've never tested such a
> scenario but from my experience the lower the rtt the lesser are the
> problems that the high speed algorithms are trying to solve.
> 
> Baruch
> 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: baruch@ev-en.org
> > To: davef1624@aol.com
> > Cc: shemminger@linux-foundation.org; netdev@vger.kernel.org
> > Sent: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 8:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: TCP congestion control for fast, short-distance networks ?
> > 
> >  * davef1624@aol.com <davef1624@aol.com> [070404 18:29]:
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >We are currently using both 1 Gb & 10 Gb links, that interconnect 
> > several
> > servers that are very *local* to
> > >each other.
> > >Typical RTT times range from 0.2 ms - 0.3 ms.
> > >
> > >We are currently using TCP reno - is there a more suitable congestion 
> > control
> > algorithm for our
> > >application,
> > >especially using the 10 Gb links ?
> > >(Most of the High-Speed TCP algorithms seem suitable for large RTT,
> > long-distance networks).
> > 
> > I'm not aware of any tests for high speed links with very low RTTs, but
> > I suspect that the new algorithms will not change much, if the
> > connections you have are indeed local than the Ethernet pause mechanism
> > is more effective for the flow control you need.
> > 
> > Baruch

Pause helps (if the hardware works). But on very high speed links with low
RTT, your main source of throttling is lack of bus bandwidth on receiver.

-- 
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-04 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20070312164311.13b5fcec@freekitty>
     [not found] ` <200703142247.l2EMln1o000338@expredir5.cites.uiuc.edu>
2007-04-03  3:15   ` [RFC] TCP Illinois preliminary version Stephen Hemminger
2007-04-03  3:39     ` David Miller
2007-04-03  3:44       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-04-03 20:20         ` Julian Shao Liu
2007-04-03 20:25         ` Julian Shao Liu
2007-04-03 16:16       ` [PATCH] TCP Illinois congestion control Stephen Hemminger
2007-04-03 21:13         ` Julian Shao Liu
2007-04-04 15:07           ` [PATCH] TCP Illinois congestion control (rev3) Stephen Hemminger
2007-04-04 15:22             ` TCP congestion control for fast, short-distance networks ? davef1624
2007-04-04 15:39               ` Baruch Even
2007-04-04 15:58                 ` davef1624
2007-04-04 16:11                   ` Baruch Even
2007-04-04 17:39                     ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2007-04-04 19:55                     ` David Miller
2007-04-04 20:15                       ` davef1624
2007-04-21  0:08             ` [PATCH] TCP Illinois congestion control (rev3) David Miller
2007-04-21  1:00               ` Stephen Hemminger

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