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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, containers@lists.osdl.org,
	hch@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Getting the new RxRPC patches upstream
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:40:01 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070424164001.GA328@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15160.1177429867@redhat.com>

On 04/24, David Howells wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> wrote:
> 
> > The current code uses del_timer_sync(). It will also return 0. However, it
> > will spin waiting for timer->function() to complete. So we are just wasting
> > CPU.
> 
> That's my objection to using cancel_delayed_work() as it stands, although in
> most cases it's a relatively minor waste of time.  However, if the timer
> expiry routine gets interrupted then it may not be so minor...  So, yes, I'm
> in full agreement with you there.

Great. I'll send the s/del_timer_sync/del_timer/ patch.

> > I guess I misunderstood you. Perhaps, you propose a new helper which use
> > try_to_del_timer_sync(), yes? Unless I missed something, this doesn't help.
> > Because the return value == -1 should be treated as 0. We failed to stop
> > the timer, and we can't free dwork.
> 
> Consider how I'm using try_to_cancel_delayed_work(): I use this when I want to
> queue a delayed work item with a particular timeout (usually for immediate
> processing), but the work item may already be pending.
> 
> If try_to_cancel_delayed_work() returns 0 or 1 (not pending or pending but
> dequeued) then I can go ahead and just schedule the work item (I'll be holding
> a lock to prevent anyone else from interfering).
> 
> However, if try_to_cancel_delayed_work() returns -1 then there's no usually no
> point attempting to schedule the work item because I know the timer expiry
> handler is doing that or going to do that.
> 
> 
> The code looks like this in pretty much all cases:
> 
> 	if (try_to_cancel_delayed_work(&afs_server_reaper) >= 0)
> 		schedule_delayed_work(&afs_server_reaper, 0);

Aha, now I see what you mean. However. Why the code above is better then

	cancel_delayed_work(&afs_server_reaper);
	schedule_delayed_work(&afs_server_reaper, 0);

? (I assume we already changed cancel_delayed_work() to use del_timer).

If delayed_work_timer_fn() is not running - both variants (let's denote them
as 1 and 2) do the same.

Now suppose that delayed_work_timer_fn() is running.

	1: lock_timer_base(), return -1, skip schedule_delayed_work().

	2: check timer_pending(), return 0, call schedule_delayed_work(),
	   return immediately because test_and_set_bit(WORK_STRUCT_PENDING)
	   fails.

So I still don't think try_to_del_timer_sync() can help in this particular
case.

To some extent, try_to_cancel_delayed_work is

	int try_to_cancel_delayed_work(dwork)
	{
		ret = cancel_delayed_work(dwork);
		if (!ret && work_pending(&dwork->work))
			ret = -1;
		return ret;
	}

iow, work_pending() looks like a more "precise" indication that work->func()
is going to run soon.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-24 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <11769696211263-git-send-email-ebiederm@xmission.com>
     [not found] ` <m1slawn9eb.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
     [not found]   ` <29341.1176975158@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <m1lkgoms4j.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
2007-04-19 14:18       ` Getting the new RxRPC patches upstream David Howells
2007-04-19 15:50         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:18           ` David Howells
2007-04-19 19:14             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 20:14         ` David Miller
2007-04-20  1:15           ` Herbert Xu
2007-04-20  8:02           ` David Howells
2007-04-20  8:58             ` David Miller
2007-04-20 10:41               ` David Howells
2007-04-20 18:38                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:28                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23  8:32                     ` David Howells
2007-04-23 17:11                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:37                         ` David Howells
2007-04-24 14:22                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 15:51                             ` David Howells
2007-04-24 16:40                               ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-04-24 16:58                                 ` David Howells
2007-04-24 17:33                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 18:22                                     ` David Howells
2007-04-24 19:34                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25  8:10                                         ` David Howells
2007-04-25 10:41                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25 10:45                                             ` David Howells
2007-04-25 13:48               ` David Howells

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