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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Ilpo =?UTF-8?B?SsOkcnZpbmVuIg==?=
	<ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi>"@smtp.osdl.org
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Baruch Even <baruch@ev-en.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9]: tcp-2.6 patchset
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 09:14:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070529091415.03a14216@freepuppy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705281253340.14736@kivilampi-30.cs.helsinki.fi>

On Mon, 28 May 2007 13:27:03 +0300 (EEST)
"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi> wrote:

> On Sun, 27 May 2007, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 27 May 2007, Baruch Even wrote:
> > 
> > > * Ilpo J?rvinen <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi> [070527 14:16]:
> > > > 
> > > > Thus, my original question basically culminates in this: should cc
> > > > modules be passed number of packets acked or number of skbs acked?
> > > > ...The latter makes no sense to me unless the value is intented to
> > > > be interpreted as number of timestamps acked or something along those 
> > > > lines. ...I briefly tried looking up for documentation for cc module 
> > > > interface but didn't find anything useful about this, and thus asked in 
> > > > the first place...
> > > 
> > > At least the htcp module that I wrote assumes that the number is actual
> > > number of tcp packets so GSO should be considered.
> > 
> > Thanks for the info! It is what I suspected... ...I'll write a patch for 
> > it tomorrow against net-2.6... Dave, beware that it will partially 
> > overlap with the changes made in the patch 8, so you might choose to put 
> > the patch 8 on hold until this issue is first resolved...
> > 
> > > The consequences of this bug are not too large but it does make all
> > > congestion control algorithms a lot less aggressive. On my machines GSO
> > > is disabled by default (e1000 at 100mbps & Tigon3 @ 1Gbps).
> > 
> > Agreed, that's my impression too. However, some algorithms do things
> > like > 0 checks for it, so it might disturb their dynamics even more
> > than in the "too small value" cases...
> 
> Hmm, there seems to be another case that I'm not too sure of...
> Please check the alternative I choose for SYN handling below...
> 
> ...hmm... While exploring this SYN thingie, I noticed that commit 
> 164891aadf1721fca4dce473bb0e0998181537c6 drops !FLAG_RETRANS_DATA_ACKED 
> check from rtt_sample call (when combining it with pkts_acked call).
> I hope that's intentional?!? ...the commit message didn't say anything 
> about it nor was anything in cc modules changed to accomodate that.
> 
> 
> [PATCH] [TCP]: Fix GSO ignorance of pkts_acked arg (cong.cntrl modules)
> 
> The code used to ignore GSO completely, passing either way too
> small or zero pkts_acked when GSO skb or part of it got ACKed.
> In addition, there is no need to calculate the value in the loop
> but simple arithmetics after the loop is sufficient.

Yes, thanks for fixing this. Wonder how it affects measurements.
 
> It is not very clear how SYN segments should be handled, so I
> choose to follow the previous implementation in this respect.

Since we don't invoke congestion control modules until after the SYN
handshake this is not a problem.


-- 
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-29 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-26  8:35 [PATCH 0/9]: tcp-2.6 patchset Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-26  8:35 ` [PATCH 1/9] [TCP]: Move Reno SACKed_out counter functions earlier Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-26  8:35   ` [PATCH 2/9] [TCP] FRTO: remove unnecessary fackets/sacked_out recounting Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-26  8:35     ` [PATCH 3/9] [TCP]: Tighten tcp_sock's belt, drop left_out Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-26  8:35       ` [PATCH 4/9] [TCP]: Access to highest_sack obsoletes forward_cnt_hint Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-26  8:35         ` [PATCH 5/9] [TCP]: Move code from tcp_ecn.h to tcp*.c and tcp.h & remove it Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-26  8:35           ` [PATCH 6/9] [TCP]: Reorganize lost marking code Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-26  8:36             ` [PATCH 7/9] [TCP]: Correct fastpath entrypoint below high_seq Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-26  8:36               ` [PATCH 8/9] [TCP]: Reduce sacked_out with reno when purging write_queue Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-26  8:36                 ` [PATCH 9/9] [RFC] [TCP]: Kill tp->fackets_out (tcp_sock diet program) Ilpo Järvinen
2007-07-03  5:00                 ` [PATCH 8/9] [TCP]: Reduce sacked_out with reno when purging write_queue David Miller
2007-07-03 11:08                   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-31  8:44               ` [PATCH 7/9] [TCP]: Correct fastpath entrypoint below high_seq David Miller
2007-05-27  7:38             ` [PATCH 6/9] [TCP]: Reorganize lost marking code Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-31  8:44             ` David Miller
2007-05-31  8:43           ` [PATCH 5/9] [TCP]: Move code from tcp_ecn.h to tcp*.c and tcp.h & remove it David Miller
2007-05-31  8:43         ` [PATCH 4/9] [TCP]: Access to highest_sack obsoletes forward_cnt_hint David Miller
2007-05-31  8:42       ` [PATCH 3/9] [TCP]: Tighten tcp_sock's belt, drop left_out David Miller
2007-05-31 16:31         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-07-03  5:02           ` David Miller
2007-05-31  8:40     ` [PATCH 2/9] [TCP] FRTO: remove unnecessary fackets/sacked_out recounting David Miller
2007-05-31  8:39   ` [PATCH 1/9] [TCP]: Move Reno SACKed_out counter functions earlier David Miller
2007-05-26 23:44 ` [PATCH 0/9]: tcp-2.6 patchset David Miller
2007-05-27  7:58   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-27  9:11     ` David Miller
2007-05-27 11:16       ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-27 14:04         ` Baruch Even
2007-05-27 16:56           ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-28 10:27             ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-29 16:14               ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2007-05-29 20:07                 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-29 20:19                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-29 20:58                     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-05-29 21:15                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-30  9:10                       ` [PATCH] [TCP]: Fix GSO ignorance of pkts_acked arg (cong.cntrl modules) Ilpo Järvinen
2007-06-01  4:38                         ` David Miller
2007-06-01 11:22                           ` Ilpo Järvinen

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