From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Cc: Krishna Kumar2 <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
Gagan Arneja <gaagaan@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>,
Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Robert Olsson <Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se>
Subject: Re: [WIP][PATCHES] Network xmit batching
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 16:09:04 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070608120904.GA19011@2ka.mipt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1181302267.4063.33.camel@localhost>
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 07:31:07AM -0400, jamal (hadi@cyberus.ca) wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-08-06 at 12:38 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 06:23:16PM -0400, jamal (hadi@cyberus.ca) wrote:
>
> > > I believe both are called with no lock. The idea is to avoid the lock
> > > entirely when unneeded. That code may end up finding that the packet
> [..]
> > + netif_tx_lock_bh(odev);
> > + if (!netif_queue_stopped(odev)) {
> > +
> > + idle_start = getCurUs();
> > + pkt_dev->tx_entered++;
> > + ret = odev->hard_batch_xmit(&odev->blist, odev);
>
> [..]
> > The same applies to *_gso case.
> >
>
> You missed an important piece which is grabbing of
> __LINK_STATE_QDISC_RUNNING
But lock is still being hold - or there was no intention to reduce lock
usage? As far as I read Krishna's mail, lock usage was not an issue, so
that hunk probably should be dropped from the analysis.
> > Without lock that would be wrong - it accesses hardware.
>
> We are achieving the goal of only a single CPU entering that path. Are
> you saying that is not good enough?
Then why essentially the same code (current batch_xmit callback)
previously was always called with disabled interrupts? Aren't there
some watchdog/link/poll/whatever issues present?
> > and i also do not know, what service demand is :)
>
> From the explanation seems to be how much cpu was used while sending. Do
> you have any suggestions for computing cpu use?
> in pktgen i added code to count how many microsecs were used in
> transmitting.
Something, that anyone can understand :)
For example /proc stats, although it is not very accurate, but it is
really usable parameter from userspace point ov view.
> > Result looks good, but I still do not understand how it appeared, that
> > is why I'm not that excited about idea - I just do not know it in
> > details.
>
> To add to KKs explanation on other email:
> Essentially the value is in amortizing the cost of barriers and IO per
> packet. For example the queue lock is held/released only once per X
> packets. DMA kicking which includes both a PCI IO write and mbs is done
> only once per X packets. There are still a lot of room for improvement
> of such IO;
Btw, what is the size of the packet in pktgen in your tests? Likely it
is small, since result is that good. That can explain alot.
> cheers,
> jamal
--
Evgeniy Polyakov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-08 12:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-06 13:49 [WIP][PATCHES] Network xmit batching jamal
2007-06-07 6:16 ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-06-07 11:43 ` jamal
2007-06-07 16:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-07 22:23 ` jamal
2007-06-08 8:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-08 11:31 ` jamal
2007-06-08 12:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2007-06-08 13:07 ` jamal
2007-06-08 21:02 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-08 5:05 ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-06-19 13:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-19 13:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-19 14:00 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-19 14:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-19 16:32 ` jamal
2007-06-19 16:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-19 16:28 ` jamal
2007-06-19 16:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-19 16:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-19 17:35 ` Robert Olsson
2007-06-19 17:48 ` jamal
2007-06-19 17:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-28 0:05 ` [WIP][PATCHES] Network xmit batching - tg3 support jamal
2007-07-02 21:20 ` Matt Carlson
2007-07-03 0:21 ` Michael Chan
2007-07-03 13:26 ` jamal
2007-07-04 4:19 ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-07-04 13:22 ` jamal
2007-07-03 13:09 ` jamal
2007-07-03 19:31 ` Matt Carlson
2007-07-04 1:59 ` jamal
2007-07-03 21:30 ` David Miller
2007-06-19 22:28 ` [WIP][PATCHES] Network xmit batching David Miller
2007-06-21 15:54 ` FSCKED clock sources WAS(Re: " jamal
2007-06-21 16:08 ` jamal
2007-06-21 16:55 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-06-25 16:59 ` jamal
2007-06-25 17:08 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-06-25 17:16 ` jamal
2007-06-21 16:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-25 16:58 ` jamal
2007-06-19 16:24 ` jamal
2007-06-21 21:00 ` Rick Jones
2007-06-22 9:59 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-25 17:35 ` Rick Jones
2007-06-07 8:42 ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-06-07 12:16 ` jamal
2007-06-08 5:06 ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-06-08 11:14 ` jamal
2007-06-08 11:31 ` Krishna Kumar2
2007-06-08 11:43 ` jamal
2007-06-08 18:00 ` Rick Jones
2007-06-08 17:27 ` Rick Jones
2007-06-09 0:17 ` jamal
2007-06-09 0:40 ` Rick Jones
2007-06-07 22:42 ` jamal
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