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From: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
To: Lennert Buytenhek <buytenh@wantstofly.org>
Cc: "Török Edvin" <edwintorok@gmail.com>,
	zambrano@broadcom.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, power@bughost.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] b44: power down PHY when interface down
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:23:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707011223.17235.mb@bu3sch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070630231734.GF2553@xi.wantstofly.org>

On Sunday 01 July 2007 01:17:34 Lennert Buytenhek wrote:
> More or less.  You can't add the resistances like that, since the
> bus isolation chip buffers the IDSEL signal, but it is correct that
> if the host's IDSEL resistor is larger than a certain value, the
> combination of the resistive coupling of IDSEL plus the extra buffer
> in the isolator might be causing the IDSEL input on the 'guest' PCI
> board to assert too late (or not assert at all), causing config
> accesses to fail.
> 
> (This also depends on the specific 'guest' PCI board used, as you
> noted, due to differing IDSEL trace lengths/capacitances and input
> pin capacitances on different PCI boards.  Also, it might work at
> 33 MHz but not work at 66 MHz, etc.)

It doesn't work on any of my boards :(

> If you feel adventurous, you could try to hack around this by
> figuring out which AD[31:16] line this PCI slot's IDSEL line is
> resistively coupled to (depends on the slot), and then adding
> another parallel resistor on the board itself to make the bus
> isolator's input buffer charge faster.  Note that this does
> increase the load on that specific AD[] line, which might cause
> other funny effects.

Well, but how to find out to which address line it's connected to?
Pretty hard to follow the PCB traces, especially since it's
multilayered.

-- 
Greetings Michael.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-01 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-30 11:47 [PATCH] b44: power down PHY when interface down Török Edvin
2007-06-30 12:05 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-06-30 14:44   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-30 15:19     ` Matthew Garrett
2007-06-30 15:25       ` Lennert Buytenhek
2007-07-01 13:02       ` Török Edvin
2007-06-30 16:42     ` PM policy, hotplug, power saving (was Re: [PATCH] b44: power down PHY when interface down) Jeff Garzik
2007-06-30 18:10       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-30 18:31       ` PM policy, hotplug, power saving and WoL Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-07-01  4:51       ` PM policy, hotplug, power saving (was Re: [PATCH] b44: power down PHY when interface down) Kyle Moffett
     [not found] ` <4354d3270706300447ladcda4by987b1f87963112f9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-30 12:13   ` [PATCH] b44: power down PHY when interface down Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-01 12:49     ` Török Edvin
2007-07-01 12:55       ` Michael Buesch
2007-06-30 21:53 ` Michael Buesch
2007-06-30 22:03   ` Lennert Buytenhek
2007-06-30 22:24     ` Michael Buesch
2007-06-30 23:17       ` Lennert Buytenhek
2007-07-01 10:23         ` Michael Buesch [this message]
2007-07-01 15:00           ` Lennert Buytenhek
2007-07-01 15:29             ` Michael Buesch
2007-07-01 20:20             ` Michael Buesch
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-01 13:25 Török Edvin

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