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From: Inaky Perez-Gonzalez <inaky@linux.intel.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: "Kok, Auke" <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>,
	Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Veeraiyan, Ayyappan" <ayyappan.veeraiyan@intel.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, arjan@linux.intel.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ixgbe: Introduce new 10GbE driver for Intel 82598 based PCI Express adapters...
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:24:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707031124.24529.inaky@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <468A4CDE.5010808@garzik.org>

On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Inaky Perez-Gonzalez wrote:
> > I don't think bitfields are broken. Maybe it's the compiler what should be fixed (*)
> 
> Then you do not understand bitfields.  It is -axiomatic- that bitfields 
> are more difficult for compilers to implement.
> 
> Access to bitfields are not atomic within the machine int in which they 
> are stored... you need to "unpack" the values stored in bitfields, even 
> if they are single-bit bitfields.

Which we do manually when we don't use bitfields. Again, conceptually,
there is no difference.

> You cannot set multiple bitfields at one time, without even more complex 
> data structures.  You cannot compare and test multiple bitfields at one 
>   time.

But I am not saying that you only use bitfields. There are cases where
they make the code much more readable (for me, at least), and cases
(like the one you mention) where they not [this is why I use unions,
btw]..

> ...
>  
> Finally, this is -nothing new-.  I've been telling other driver writers 
> not to use bitfields in their drivers.  Google for 'garzik' and 'bitfield'.

I know, I am just disagreeing. This is one of those things each person is
entrenched on and is impossible to change (like emacs vs vi).

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-03 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-12 23:44 [ANNOUNCE] new driver ixgbe for Intel(R) 10GbE PCI Express adapters Ayyappan.Veeraiyan
2007-06-12 23:44 ` [PATCH] ixgbe: Introduce new 10GbE driver for Intel 82598 based " Ayyappan Veeraiyan
2007-07-02 12:52   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-02 14:05     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-02 14:25       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-02 14:27         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-02 14:41           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-02 14:41             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-02 15:26             ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-02 15:32               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-02 15:52                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-02 16:09                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-02 15:54                 ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-06  8:46                   ` Ingo Oeser
2007-07-02 14:31         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-02 19:00     ` Veeraiyan, Ayyappan
2007-07-02 19:04       ` Ayyappan Veeraiyan
2007-07-02 20:16       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-02 21:09       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-02 21:42         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-02 22:02           ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-02 22:08             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-02 22:10             ` Michael Buesch
2007-07-02 22:16               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-02 23:57                 ` Kok, Auke
2007-07-03  0:11                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-03  0:16                   ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez
2007-07-03 13:19                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-03 18:24                       ` Inaky Perez-Gonzalez [this message]
2007-07-05 23:29                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-03  0:08           ` Veeraiyan, Ayyappan
2007-07-03 22:01             ` Ayyappan Veeraiyan
2007-07-02 22:56         ` Veeraiyan, Ayyappan
2007-07-03 12:53       ` Neil Horman
2007-07-05 12:37         ` Neil Horman
2007-07-09 14:21           ` Veeraiyan, Ayyappan
2007-07-10  0:57             ` Neil Horman
2007-06-13 23:05 ` [ANNOUNCE] new driver ixgbe for Intel(R) 10GbE " Francois Romieu
2007-06-13 23:18   ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-14  0:06   ` Ayyappan Veeraiyan
2007-06-14 20:36     ` Francois Romieu

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